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manchild
I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 6:42PM - in reply to Mandingo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I care little about what malmo did several decades ago. He was obviously very good just like the US current crop of runners. I still think his comments are soft as are the current top American runners that are skipping this race because of the heat. There are just WAY too many top runners in the world that are in Kenya ready to brave the heat and compete an international level - something the Americans know little about. They just want to compete in their little bubble. That is why they want international athletes out of their little ncaa - too competitive!
constpateda
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 6:43PM - in reply to midwesta Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

midwesta wrote:

wow, you're kind of an ass. This question wasn't necessarily aimed directly at you, so I'm sorry to get your panties in a bundle. I asked the question because it would make our runners look even more stupid if they're complaining about the heat, the security, whatever, while all the other runners wouldn't seem to give a shit. However, if the countries also had a lot of trouble fielding a full team, like the US did, then it would give some credence to your argument.



Maybe you should unbundle your panties, he was just answering your question.
constpateda
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 6:46PM - in reply to constpateda Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Question for the letsrun tough guys:



Since Meb and Mottram aren't there, do you include them in your "pussies for not being there" argument?
man
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 7:18PM - in reply to constpateda Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
man it's not just the heat. it's the travel.
getting to kenya ( like 20 hours) to run one race (even a big one) in sub prime conditions, in march? A lot of the americans are eyeing upcoming summer races and marathons.

if this race were being held in mexico in similar conditions it would be a different story.
Souf Tejas
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 8:11PM - in reply to kaitainen Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Im rootin for Zersanay Tadesse!
Not Really
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 8:14PM - in reply to PF Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

PF wrote:

[quote]wejo wrote:

I have about 2 minutes to type. I spilled a coke on my computer and it doesn't seem to work so updating may be difficult although they have a great media room here.

1) It is hot. It is humid. My apologies to malmo. It's not even noon.

2) The course is not a golf course like you and I think. The grass reminds me of a beat up soccer field. And then a lot of it reminds me of a rat maze. A lot of turns within a small area. But then they'll send runners right through a sand trap with a steep incline.



I hope the Americans who decided to forgo the race read the above as well as the whiny peanut gallery who won't shut up about the fact that some of our runners actually get to choose their own racing schedule. It's hot, it's humid and it doesn't fit into the long term goals of many of our best runners who obviously know more about how to prepare for prossional running than anyone who posts here. Myself included. Wejo included as well.[/quote]


Yes because Americans are the only runner's in this race that have long term goals. Lets be honest, they know they were going to get banged harder than ever so they decided to pussy out plain and simple.

Its kinda disrespectful to consider yourself a dedicated distance runner and an elite at that, than turn your back on the biggest test of any distance runner in the history of the sport...the World XC Championships. The truest one at that being one race only. I will continue to shake my head at these guys.
Really
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 8:20PM - in reply to Not Really Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Not Really wrote:

Its kinda disrespectful to consider yourself a dedicated distance runner and an elite at that, than turn your back on the biggest test of any distance runner in the history of the sport...the World XC Championships. The truest one at that being one race only. I will continue to shake my head at these guys.
You're the real PUSSY here, you didn't man-up and run in Mombasa did you? Why? PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY
scotth
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 8:58PM - in reply to wejo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Everything said here about the travel time, jet lag and oppressive conditions is true & the races tomorrow will be less, much less a test/competition and more a matter of survival. Times are gonna be sloooow, bodies are gonna cook and the medics are gonna have way too much to do. Being the best-conditioned runners in the toughest footrace on Earth will mean nothing when you're insides are screaming.

A few runners will hold up okay & the rest will suffer like never before in int'l comp, including the altitude of the '68 OG.
wineturtle
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 9:35PM - in reply to scotth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Maybe watching all the Toughguy Ultimate Gloveless Cage No Holdsbarred Kick Fighting Championships and playing war games in cyberspace has clouded some posters judgement on the difference between being brave and being STUPID... running thru discomfort, pain and exhustion is what the greats do but knowingly asking them to risk death in these conditions is folly and is the message I get from malmo posts. Because a runner is willing to risk death is not enough of a reason to permit him to do so. Will the will to win trump the need to survive? Run yourself to death... that's not tough that's STUPID.I'm just afraid some of these runners actually have the resolve to run themselves to death.
I pray for the safety of all concerned.
Skuj
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 9:45PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I once raced 12km XC in Nigeria. It was gey and 41C. I jumped over some people as I approached the finish. About a km before the finish, some people suddenly did funky-chicken type movements, and wandered off course.

I am so glad that I had the opportunity to do this, and did not say no to it.

Discuss.


malmo wrote:

[quote]Avocados Number wrote:
I'm surprised to hear you say that you'd turn down an opportunity to compete against the best in the world in the world championships just because of the hot weather.


What part aren't you getting about Mombasa's weather? It's not merely "hot" it's oppressively hot, unlike anything you've ever raced in. In fact, a 75 degree dew point is something that you might experience a couple times in a summer, and only if you live in the wrong places. Twelve Looooong kilometers. 25-30 hour adventure to get there. 7-10 hour jet lag. This is the "Tour d'Enfer." After the race is over now reverse the process and take that 25-30 journey home. You've now wasted 10 days of training trying to prove you're a tough guy.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1817976&page=0[/quote]
bootylock
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 9:48PM - in reply to wineturtle Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
12K is just long enough to cause some serious damage in those conditions. I think the Jr Women go first, in the sun. It could be very scary for them.




wineturtle wrote:

Maybe watching all the Toughguy Ultimate Gloveless Cage No Holdsbarred Kick Fighting Championships and playing war games in cyberspace has clouded some posters judgement on the difference between being brave and being STUPID... running thru discomfort, pain and exhustion is what the greats do but knowingly asking them to risk death in these conditions is folly and is the message I get from malmo posts. Because a runner is willing to risk death is not enough of a reason to permit him to do so. Will the will to win trump the need to survive? Run yourself to death... that's not tough that's STUPID.I'm just afraid some of these runners actually have the resolve to run themselves to death.
I pray for the safety of all concerned.
celeriter
RE: I'm in Kenya 3/23/2007 10:12PM - in reply to bootylock Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
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