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| woah wait a minute |
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I'm sorry but it seems a bit out of place for a gay man to be commenting on what women should be offering. After all, do you really understand women & how they work? And, how exactly does gay sex work? Is any one shoving a penis in someone elses hole? I think you'd have to be in the mood for that. Most men, unfortunately put their wives in a position to be constantly babysitting them & then they want to be respected in bed at night. I don't blame a lot of women for not being in the mood or just palin being too tired. Id be tired too after feeding, cleaning, & clothing most men. The key to most loving sexual relationships seems to be men who sacrifically love their wives & wives who respect their husbands. Its not about what the other wants necessarily but what's best for both. You're right though its emotional for sure. And you sound a bit selfish. Put a few kids in there & you'd realize what tired was...oh wait.... [quote]playsfortheotherteam wrote: This thread is one reason i am glad to be gay. When i want sex i just start rubbing my partner and i get what i want...sometimes, we just make it all about each other too, which is fun. I don't understand that eventhough women may not be in the mood that they can't do things for their spouses because they love them. Even if they have no desire for sex why no oral or even vaginal if it isn't painful? One of the great things about sex is a lot of it is in the mind and spouses should get pleasure in pleasing their lover. If not, there is something deeper going on emotionally. |
| letmebefrank |
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You're a tool. Marriage isn't all about sex. I guess maybe an uncommitted homosexual relationship is...figures.... [/quote] |
| uhhh... |
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I'm going to lend playsfortheotherteam some support on this one. I think what he says is pretty insightful. |
| Not a swimmer |
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I feel similarly. Interesting perspective. Cheers, nas |
| Leprachaun 3 |
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I would say the interest in sex isn't gone, just sex with her husband. I'm sure they'd have interest in sex with someone else. Unfortunately we live in a culture where that's a taboo. I think women are interested in variety just like men are, but are socially conditioned more than men are to think it's not ok.[/quote] That's^exactly f*cking right. It is indeed still a taboo, unfortunately, for women to have multiple partners. But they desire, even crave, variety as a much as a man. They are human beings after all. We are not as different sexually as is represented. The human condition is not suited for long-term monogamous relationships without a great deal of effort and sacrifice.[/quote] Drives me crazy. A woman should be free to f*ck freely as a much as a male.[/quote] Nope. I think what you folks mean to say is that women cheat or seek it as much as men, that is not the same as desiring the same amount of partners and variety as men do. . Women seek stability, although it could be with the guy next door. Men fantasize far more about having tons of partners, unlikey that it will play out that way for most men, but they basically want to have sex with every attractive woman they see, and most of the less attractive ones too. |
| Marriage Counselor |
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Women don't like to admit it, but they do seek and want variety. That's why the sex usually goes dull or ends after a few years in a relationship. Women desire excitement as much as a man and that typically takes the form of new partners. However, you are free to believe what you want to believe. |
| Domitian |
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Typical response from these women to Tiberian postings... "I just wanted to write to you to say that your posting on Craigslist made me so wet. When I was at uni (I graduated 4 years ago), I had a hot fantasy about being fVcked hard by a professor. I would imagine him telling me that he has something to discuss with me in his office after class. I go up there and knock on the door, wondering what was up. I walk in and my professor is there, looking stern. He tells me there's a problem with one of my papers, that it looks like I've copied from someone else. I get upset and then he tells me that there is a way we could sort this out. I can tell from the way he's eyeing my tIts through my low-cut top what he's thinking." etc. Yes, eventually we made it happen as she wanted. You are living in a different universe with your heads in the sand if you somehow think females are pure and virginal princesses.... thank f$$$ most of them are not! |
| Update? |
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Just curious how some of you guys are doing now that the year is 3/4 over. |
| Mr. Obvious |
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I'm doing great. Bachelorhood for the win. |
| Humpty Dumpty |
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308 and counting. First year keeping track but it seems normal to me - not high, not low. |
| redux |
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Recently single and happy, but LRC says I'm gay. |
| Let's be serious |
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What do you think? Rolls the eyes... |
| boogsbbq4ever |
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Pre-nuptial shutoff...0 for the year so far. |
| Humpty Dumpty |
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Are you for real? Married? Seriously? I just don't understand how this is possible unless you are over 70 or something. What the heck do you do? I'd go insane. |
| Marriage Insider |
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Are you for real? Married? Seriously? I just don't understand how this is possible unless you are over 70 or something. What the heck do you do? I'd go insane.[/quote] If the woman's not interesed, not much you can do short of looking elsewhere. And believe me, that happens a lot more than you or others on this forum might think. I would estimate that at least 1/3 of married men are seeking their sexual satisfaction outside the marriage. Those are just the cold, hard facts of married life. |
| Not Married but Worried |
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Read through a good amount of this thread (10 pages- working through the rest. It seems like marriage can go either way with a serious bend towards shut-off/rapid decline, at least in this sample size. My question is - any ideas for a trial run for whether or not you can predict it? Any pre-marriage markers to know whether or not she'll continue/you'll be able to keep her interested (recognize there needs to be some male self-review). I'm in a place where I'm considering marriage and have been in a committed relationship for about 2 or so years. I like her for the right reasons (smart, caring etc) and for the shallow ones (thin, attractive). Our frequency has definitely declined, but still 5 or so times per week. The real decline has been in quality- seems I'm initiating/its always happening before bedtime. I think a lot of it has been due to an increase in stress/heavy workload but obviously it could be me making excuses for her in order to remain optimistic. I do all the right things I can (seriously), and I'm not a fat slob (never had a problem finding action out of relationship). My appetite is pretty robust, so if it were forever on the decline it would be a problem for me. So any good ways to benchmark the likelihood of success post-marriage? |
| really?????? |
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If its declining already, it will continue to do so. Kids will make it worse most likely. Sex isn't a reason to marry or not marry the one you love. |
| Glen Matlock |
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23rd anniversary yesterday. Did it last Wednesday, and then on Saturday and Sunday. We do it at about that frequency for 3 weeks out of the month. |
| Simple Advice |
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Look, it is really very simple. Make your sexual needs clear before making any commitment. No, I do not mean assume that she can figure it out. Tell her, USING WORDS, exactly what your expectations are. I made the mistake that everyone makes in their first marriage. I suffered the same fate. Before I got married the second time I was very clear that I would be needing sex twice a day for the foreseeable future (at least 30 years). She could have bailed then and we would both have been better off if that did not work for her. Instead, she said yes and we both know that sex at least twice a day is part of the picture. Have been in my second marriage for eight years and there is no slowdown. My needs have not taken her by surprise and we both went into it with eyes wide open. I know that you think you could never have that conversation with your GF/fiancee. But if you can't then that pretty much tells you everything about your so-called relationship. And it pretty much predicts everything that will inevitably follow should you get married. |
| JoeyJoeJoeJrShabadoo |
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Bump, I'm bored. Any new guys to the board slowly realizing that married life ain't what it's cracked up to be? |
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