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Average_Joe
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 5:26PM - in reply to Former Teacher Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Former Teacher wrote:
Anyway, I've noticed a few people on this board use language differently from me. For example, I would write:

The car is dirty and needs to be washed.

Others might write:

The car is dirty and needs washed.

I had never heard the latter until recently. I'm from Los Angeles. My ex would use the second form. She's from Pittsburgh. A poster on this site also used the second form.

Which way do you all use and where did you grow up?


Yes, that is common usage in Pittsburgh. I came from there, way back when. Another oddity from the area is "Read". Not as in "read a book" but pronounced like "Red" and meaning (to Pittsburgh natives) to clean or tidy. A person from Pittsburgh when telling you to clean up your room, might say, "Read it up".

Odd.
Thales
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 5:39PM - in reply to Average_Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Loose instead of lose, as in I will loose the race.
Phase instead of faze, as in It doesn't phase me.
Cease instead of seize, as in my calves ceased up.

The first two occur more and more these days,
and the latter two appeared in the same issue of NER two years ago.
I guess Fitzy is carefuller now.

And another one I don't get;
Impact, as in How will this impact us?
As a verb, impact means constipate.
And the right word is already there: Affect.

And you-unses who haven't learned to care about your mother tongue,
which structures your thoughts,
well, it's not too late.
Spelling and grammer
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 5:54PM - in reply to picking nits Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This is my new favorite thread.

Let's not forget: mastErbate and grammEr.
SMJO
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 6:02PM - in reply to Spelling and grammer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The infamous "Duel Meet" as the Brojo's love to write. Then in that "Duel Meet", the athletes "dual" to the finish line.
Western PA
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 6:03PM - in reply to SMJO Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does this mean I can't say something needs done anymore?
grammarian
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 6:04PM - in reply to Average_Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some additional ones:

1. Farther vs. further - Farther is for distance, further is for degree
2. Adverse vs. Averse - Adverse = bad, averse = reluctant
3. "Try and" instead of "try to"
anudder PA'er
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 8:19PM - in reply to Average_Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Younse cannot pass judgement on my wife and myself for talking funny just cause we come from PA. (PA is Pennsylvania for younse outta staters.)

Now if I can just find my pop and hoagie cause I'm gonna hunker down and watch the greatest sport in the world is coming on - football. Too bad the Stillers aren't in it.
anudder PA'er
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 8:26PM - in reply to anudder PA'er Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why is it that when you play defense you defend the player on the other team but when you stick up for a buddy you are defending him, too? Is defending someone helpful or hurtful to them?

And do you have to put the question mark in the quotes? For example, who said something like "We are a united people separated by a common language?" or is it "...by a common language"? Note the placement of the question marks. Why should the question mark be in the quotes? The guy who originated the quote wasn't asking a question, was he? Isn't my question the bigger point than the quote, so the question mark should be outside the ending quotation mark.
picking nits
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 8:50PM - in reply to anudder PA\'er Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

anudder PA'er wrote:

And do you have to put the question mark in the quotes?


In American usage, the little punctuation marks (period and comma) go inside the quotation marks and the larger punctuation (question mark, semicolon) goes outside. A lot of people think that's stupid, but that's American usage.

In the case you posited, the question mark would go inside the quotation marks only if it were part of what you were quoting.
scbnd,m xc
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 8:56PM - in reply to Vermont gal Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
" You know what I'm saying"
Charlie and His Orchestra
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 9:09PM - in reply to nh native Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

nh native wrote:

another subtlety: WW II lasted from 1939 to 1945.

sorry, couldn't resist.


Errrmmmm, for the PRINCIPAL players it was 41-45.

Of course you could always backdate the start to the plebiscite in the Sudetenland or the Saarland or maybe the occupation of the Ruhr or even the Versailles Conference...
Impressed
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 9:15PM - in reply to Charlie and His Orchestra Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wow, that's really impressive. You must be really smart.

I'm impressed.

The whole message board is impressed.
smart or
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 9:29PM - in reply to Impressed Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Really smart or just entirely too much time on his/her times.
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RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 9:29PM - in reply to Charlie and His Orchestra Reply | Return to Index | Report Post


Of course you could always backdate the start to the plebiscite in the Sudetenland or the Saarland or maybe the occupation of the Ruhr or even the Versailles Conference...


Or you could backdate it to 1937, when Japan invaded China--assuming those two countries would count as "principal" players. ("But how could they? They're Asian!")
hectorsalazar
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/17/2007 10:03PM - in reply to >>>>>> Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
how about when people say "these ones." gets me every time.
burgh boy
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/18/2007 6:13AM - in reply to Average_Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
To "Red" up a room or clean it uo is short form for ready. As in - let's ready this room before our dinner guest arrive (set things strainght in the room). It almost makes sense in this context.



Average_Joe wrote:

Yes, that is common usage in Pittsburgh. I came from there, way back when. Another oddity from the area is "Read". Not as in "read a book" but pronounced like "Red" and meaning (to Pittsburgh natives) to clean or tidy. A person from Pittsburgh when telling you to clean up your room, might say, "Read it up".

Odd.
Average_Joe
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/18/2007 6:20AM - in reply to anudder PA'er Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

anudder PA'er wrote:

Younse cannot pass judgement on my wife and myself for talking funny just cause we come from PA. (PA is Pennsylvania for younse outta staters.)

Now if I can just find my pop and hoagie cause I'm gonna hunker down and watch the greatest sport in the world is coming on - football. Too bad the Stillers aren't in it.


Ah, music to my Pittsburgh ears!
Pamela Anderson's Left Nipple
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/18/2007 9:10AM - in reply to Thales Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Thales wrote:
Phase instead of faze, as in It doesn't phase me.



Not quite, hot shot...
Janet Jackson's Right Areola
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/18/2007 9:35AM - in reply to Pamela Anderson's Left Nipple Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Look at the context of the rest of his post, that was clearly his point.
malmo
RE: Some common departures from STANDARD ENGLISH 1/18/2007 9:48AM - in reply to Pamela Anderson's Left Nipple Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Pamela Anderson's Left Nipple wrote:
Not quite, hot shot...
Even the best of us have occasional synaptic malfunctions.
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