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morph the cat
Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 6:14AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone familiar with Art Devany and his Evolutionary Fitness theories? He has a strong anti endurance sport bias. His blog has a special catagory just for that subject. See his latest rant.

http://www.arthurdevany.com/2006/11/should_my_daugh.html
This Guy...
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 6:26AM - in reply to morph the cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The guy is an obvious nut job.

We are all just waiting around for a heart attack by running like we do.
Mr. Tennis
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 7:17AM - in reply to morph the cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Among Mr. De Vany's best points:

"She did not collapse and, so, may not have a heart issue that will kill her. But, you may not know for sure. She ought to be screened."

She's survived this far, but it's been proven that running is the only sport that will give you a heart attack.

"She will become slower unless she adds sprinting into her mix. And she is likely to develop a higher level of body fat, particularly if she begins eating the pitiful foods runners eat."

We all know how poorly runners eat compared to the rest of the country.

My personal fav:
"Her risks of brain cancer will rise as will the likelihood she may be injured in traffic. Or accosted out on a run."

Obviously getting hit by a car or being mugged increases your risk of cancer. Everyone knows that.

Study Mr. De Vanys teachings and lifestyle. Please, if not for yourself, do it for your cells so they don't go into their "suicide program"
teenage mutant ninja turtles
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 8:03AM - in reply to morph the cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what a sad man. I posted something funny, but doubt it will be published.

hopefully this guy doesn't breaks his hips because his bones are too weak to lift weights like he proposes.

something running could help prevent perhaps? nahhhh, too risky.
ORANGES!
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 10:09AM - in reply to morph the cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This one may take the cake

"8. The pretty, happy, and athletic young woman that is your daughter will become a fat, skinny, compulsive, overtrained and prematurely aged woman with a slight scowl on her face in place of that smile if she becomes a chronic runner."

Fat, skinny? All at once to boot huh?
ORANGES!
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 10:11AM - in reply to ORANGES! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Even better apparently he ran XC.

"I played professional baseball in the minor leagues, competed in Olympic style weightlifting, and was a successful motocross and cross country racer."
Citizen Runner
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 10:24AM - in reply to ORANGES! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ORANGES! wrote:

Even better apparently he ran XC.

I understood that to be a motorcycle event.

As a motorcyclist myself, I can honestly say I understand the attraction of riding a bike. With that perspective it strikes me as bizarre that a motorcycle racer would be calling out running as being a dangerous pass time.
Morph the Cat
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 10:43AM - in reply to ORANGES! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post



Fat, skinny? All at once to boot huh?


He means this:
http://www.truestarhealth.com/members/cm_archives14ML3P1A11.html
Chronic!
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 11:07AM - in reply to Morph the Cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Morph the Cat wrote:




Fat, skinny? All at once to boot huh?


He means this:
http://www.truestarhealth.com/members/cm_archives14ML3P1A11.html


Doesn't sound like skinny-fat is much of a risk for a 'chronic runner.' But then again, I'm a chronic runner.
heterozygote vigor
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/20/2006 11:53AM - in reply to Chronic! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Read the guy's qualifications.

See anything even hinting at professional training in evolutionary biology or physical anthropology?

Nope. At best he's an amateur.

Training matters in all things!

Ignore the idiot.
morph the cat
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/21/2006 6:01PM - in reply to heterozygote vigor Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2 days in a row. That is weird for him!
morph the cat
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/21/2006 6:02PM - in reply to heterozygote vigor Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2 days in a row. That is weird for him!

http://www.arthurdevany.com/2006/11/marathoners_and_2.html
The Specter of Richard Gibbens
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/21/2006 6:08PM - in reply to morph the cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I like how some of you just dismiss theories that don't mesh with your own, but don't offer any evidence to back up your claims or provide alternative theories/data. What's the mater? The turth sting? And if you're just going to engage in personal attacks, don't expect this "nutjob" to respond.
bad connection
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/21/2006 6:34PM - in reply to The Specter of Richard Gibbens Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

The Specter of Richard Gibbens wrote:

I like how some of you just dismiss theories that don't mesh with your own, but don't offer any evidence to back up your claims or provide alternative theories/data. What's the mater? The turth sting? And if you're just going to engage in personal attacks, don't expect this "nutjob" to respond.


You want counter arguments?


"6. The free radicals produced by running and the glucose heavy foods runners eat will expose her to high oxidative stress. Her mitochondria will take a beating and may eventually go into premature decline (though years later)."


Free radicals do increase with endurance activity, but the mechanisms for 'clearing' or getting rid of free radicals also greatly increases with training. In essence it cancels itself out. Mitochondria go into a premature decline? Unlikely unless a person is consistantly and constantly overtrained or does anaerobic work(not distance work as he claims) for too long and too often. Look at all the longitudal studies. The elite athletes who continued to do some kind of running had a much greater aerobic capacity and mitochondria concentration and activity than any recreational or untrained people at the same age. Thus his claim is total BS.



10. It takes too much time and is no fun. The pretty, happy, and athletic young woman that is your daughter will become a fat, skinny, compulsive, overtrained and prematurely aged woman with a slight scowl on her face in place of that smile if she becomes a chronic runner.


His opinions, nothing based on facts or evidence in these claims.

"5. She will become slower unless she adds sprinting into her mix. And she is likely to develop a higher level of body fat, particularly if she begins eating the pitiful foods runners eat."

True a person can lose sprint speed with lots of endurance training, but is this bad? And all it takes is some sprint maintenance training to counteract these effects. And again the guy generalizes about what a runner eats. Since all of us eat the same?! And in general runners eat much better than the general population, just not like he thinks we should. His ideas are not those accepted by the majority of the science community. And how will her body fat levels increase with endurance training? Does this make any sence? Ya I know, all of us CC athletes have body fat % that are incredibly high right?


that's just some of the stuff. It's all BS. It's a shame that people listen to whackos like this.
Haji
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/21/2006 6:37PM - in reply to morph the cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This guy is a kook. Everyone needs to visit his site and leave a message letting him know what kind of idiot he is.
morph the cat
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/30/2006 12:20PM - in reply to Haji Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
pseudosci-fi
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/30/2006 12:43PM - in reply to morph the cat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I like how he uses "Evolutionary" and "scientific", and then it turns out his "science" backround is.... economics! HA!
jaguar1
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/30/2006 1:01PM - in reply to pseudosci-fi Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That dude has boobs.
so cliftys
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 11/30/2006 1:15PM - in reply to jaguar1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he looks like Jigsaw from the saw series.
Bob Lalah
RE: Evolutionary Fitness - Anti-Running 12/2/2006 3:08PM - in reply to so cliftys Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"I live according to the principles of Evolutionary Fitness and have been doing so for the past 20 years. At 67, I am fit and lean and strong at 6'1" and 208 pounds."


a lean 6'1" and 208 lbs, huh? that is not lean, not by my standards. i'm 6' and 145 lbs, which is lean. effing fat ass


"I am never sick and can do anything I want to do."

this guy is completely out of control
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