nawtyxes1
IS THERE ONE? 6/24/2003 1:41AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Is there one topic on this board track related that can be discussed without hating, non-constructive critism, racism or otherwise smark alleck comments?
"smark alleck"
RE: IS THERE ONE? 6/24/2003 1:43AM - in reply to nawtyxes1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
no
malmo
"Smart Alec": the etymology 6/24/2003 1:53AM - in reply to nawtyxes1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"According to G.L. Cohen, author of Studies in Slang Part 1 (1985), the phrase smart alec arose from the exploits of one Alec Hoag. A celebrated pimp, thief, and confidence man operating out of New York City in the 1840's, Mr. Hoag, along with his wife Melinda and an accomplice known as "French Jack," operated a con called the "panel game," a method by which prostitutes and their pimps robbed foolish customers. See www.wordwizard.com/ askww/foundaskww.asp?num=342.

A search of several of the more reliable dictionaries pretty much confirms this definition. The Oxford English Dictionary traces it to mid-1860s slang, while the American Heritage Dictionary and Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable tentatively trace the etymology of the phrase to Hoag.

The "panel game" consisted of sliding walls that would enable Mr. Hoag to sneak in whilst the mark was sleeping and steal valuables. Before Mr. Hoag, a prostitute's accomplices would wait until the mark was asleep, then burst into the room. But the marks got wise and would block the door with a table or chair propped up under the doorknob, thinking they would then be safe from intruders. "Smart" Alec Hoag, because he never woke the victim, would be on the other side of town before the rube even knew what had happened."
Smarty Pants
RE: "Smart Alec": the etymology 6/24/2003 8:26PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thanks malmo. I'll keep that in mind during my next long run.
malmo
RE: "Smart Alec": the etymology 6/25/2003 12:31AM - in reply to Smarty Pants Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Couldn't find the etymology for "smarty pants". Not for "wise ass" either!
Dan Denison
RE: IS THERE ONE? 6/25/2003 3:30AM - in reply to nawtyxes1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

nawtyxes1 wrote:

Is there one topic on this board track related that can be discussed without hating, non-constructive critism, racism or otherwise smark alleck comments?


No there's not and you must be a thin skinned pussy for asking. That's stupid.
Paddytheirishman
RE: IS THERE ONE? 6/25/2003 3:40AM - in reply to Dan Denison Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
HOTNESS seems to be relatively civilized. :-)