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the pope
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 8:16PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
malmo wrote:

August 4, 2002 was about as humid as it can possibly get in NYC, however, the 9:00am temperature was 83 degrees and 72 percent humidity, that's a thick as pea soup. The 7am temp was 79 degrees. The high temperature for that day was 90' (and 46% RH). No need for you to embellish.

Furthermore, this race is not August 4, but August 27. It is very unlikely that on any August 27 at 7:00am you will ever have a day such as August 4, 2002. The difference between the beginning of August in NYC and the end of August is like night and day.

You're going to have to practice up on that research thing.

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KNYC/2002/8/4/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA


you're dumb. Just admit that you were wrong. It's not unreasonable to think that it could be that hot in NYC on August 27 in some future year.

It's not like temperatures haven't been rising every year.
malmo
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 8:20PM - in reply to the pope Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the pope wrote:

you're dumb. Just admit that you were wrong. It's not unreasonable to think that it could be that hot in NYC on August 27 in some future year.

It's not like temperatures haven't been rising every year.


I put forth the facts. The facts trump infantile speculation.
runnerryan
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 8:48PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Malmo,
I didn't mean to rip on Culpepper, I've got all the respect for him in the world. But I was wondering if he went out with the leaders and faded, or just had a bad day.

Hes also had a good track record of running marathons that are much more impressive than his build up races, so an off race for him isn't as bad of a sign as it might be for some guys.
malmo
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 8:56PM - in reply to runnerryan Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I didn't suggest you were ripping on him. There are good days and bad ones. All runners have them, even running machines like Culpepper.
ed5ts-y;l
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 10:09PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Malmo you should visit some more weather pages, including the one you listed. It may not be the same, but in the past it (Aug 27) can be pretty damn close. Duh.
Hector Matos
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 10:20PM - in reply to runnerryan Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone knows what happened to Khalid Kannouchi? I thought he was going to run this race
malmo
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 10:48PM - in reply to ed5ts-y;l Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ed5ts-y;l wrote:

Malmo you should visit some more weather pages, including the one you listed. It may not be the same, but in the past it (Aug 27) can be pretty damn close. Duh.


You're just a glutton for punishment?

7am and 9 am temperature August 27th

2006 66 63
2005 72 74
2004 71 72
2003 73 76
2002 69 74
2001 71 74
2000 68 72
Shoup
RE: NYC Half results? 8/27/2006 11:21PM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
malmo wrote:
I think it would gave been one of the best road races anywhere had the course gone Times Square, Macys, Flatiron Bldg, Union Square, Little Italy, Chinatown, Men in Black Building, City Hall, Wall Street, Battery Park.
What's the "Men in Black Bldg"?
wejo
co-founder
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 12:50AM - in reply to MarathonMind Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
NYC HALF-MARATHON TOP-15 RESULTS
(c) Race Results Weekly, all rights reserved

MEN -
1, Tom Nyariki, 34, Kenya, New Balance TC, 1:01:22 DB
2, Meb Keflezighi, 31, San Diego, CA, Nike, 1:01:28 DB
3, Abdi Abdirahman, 29, Tucson, AZ, Nike, 1:01:34 DB
4, Mohamed Amyn, 30, Morocco, 1:02:11 PB
5, Demesse Tefera, 23, New York, NY, Ethiopia, Westchester TC,
1:03:17 PB
6, Worku Beyi, 19, Peekskill, NY, Ethiopia, Westchester TC, 1:03:41
PB
7, Andrew Letherby, 32, Boulder, CO, Australia, Asics, 1:03:46
8, Alan Culpepper, 33, Lafayette, CO, Nike, 1:04:07
9, Kassahun Kabiso, 22, Peekskill, NY, Ethiopia, Westchester TC,
1:05:31
10, Alirio Carrasco, 30, Bayside, NY, Colombia, West Side Runners,
1:06:25
11, Matt Downin, 29, Madison, WI, New Balance TC, 1:07:59
12, Art Siemers, 33, Golden, CO, 1:08:31
13, Elmustafa McHkirate, 25, Astoria, NY, Morocco, Westchester TC,
1:08:38
14, Robert Cannon, 23, Toms River, NJ, 1:08:59
15, Omri Holzman, 27, New York, NY, Greater New York RT, 1:10:44

WOMEN -
1, Catherine Ndereba, 34, Kenya, Nike, 1:09:43
2, Benita Johnson, 27, Australia, Nike, 1:09:43
3, Constantina Tomescu-Dita, 36, Boulder, CO, Romania, Asics,
1:10:11
4, Yuri Kano, 27, Boulder, CO, Japan, Shiseido Running Club,
1:11:44
5, Colleen De Reuck, 42, Boulder, CO, Nike, 1:11:48
6, Claudia Camargo, 35, Danbury, CT, Argentina, West Side Runners,
1:13:39 PB
7, Aziza Aliyu, 20, Peekskill, NY, Ethiopia, Westchester TC,
1:15:18
DB
8, Sopagna Eap, 25, Eugene, OR, Team Eugene, 1:17:22 PB
9, Sharon Lemberger, 33, Stamford, CT, Westchester TC, 1:19:43
10, Leteyesus Berhe, 28, Peekskill, NY, Ethiopia, Westchester TC,
1:21:05
11, Abbi Gleeson, 25, New York, NY, New York Athletic Club, 1:22:00
12, Carter Hamill, 23, New York, NY, New York Athletic Club, 1:22:02
13, Cindy Pomeroy, 45, Windsor Locks, CT, Westchester TC, 1:22:05
14, Julia Stamps, 27, New York, NY, New York Athletic Club, 1:22:36
15, Lilian Kroner, 40, Monroe, NY, West Side Runners, 1:23:57
JimG
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 7:02AM - in reply to runnerryan Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
runnerryan wrote:

Malmo,
I didn't mean to rip on Culpepper, I've got all the respect for him in the world. But I was wondering if he went out with the leaders and faded, or just had a bad day.

Hes also had a good track record of running marathons that are much more impressive than his build up races, so an off race for him isn't as bad of a sign as it might be for some guys.


Alan was w/ the leaders at 5k, but by 10k he was 23 sec. off the back, and essentially running by himself the rest of the way. He and Shayne just had their second child back in June so I imagine his nights aren't as restful as he'd like for optimal training and recovery. BTW Shayne also ran yesterday (1:31:09, 45th female) and expect an announcement today from NYRR that Alan will be back in NY in November to take another shot at the streets of the city, this time through all 5 boroughs.
KnowItAll
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 8:12AM - in reply to JimG Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
JimG wrote:

Alan was w/ the leaders at 5k, but by 10k he was 23 sec. off the back, and essentially running by himself the rest of the way. He and Shayne just had their second child back in June so I imagine his nights aren't as restful as he'd like for optimal training and recovery. BTW Shayne also ran yesterday (1:31:09, 45th female) and expect an announcement today from NYRR that Alan will be back in NY in November to take another shot at the streets of the city, this time through all 5 boroughs.


I heard Alan had iron deficiency not too long ago, so maybe he's not 100% back yet.
KevinM
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 9:51AM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
malmo wrote:

That must have been a rush ripping down 7th through Times Square then ripping down 42nd Street? Perfect weather too.

The original proposal would have been even better -- straight down Broadway to downtown.


It was pretty cool coming down 7th Ave, as was running 42nd, though the fact that 7th was completely closed (westbound lanes on 42nd were open) made it a bit more intense.

Agreed on the weather. Was perfect for the elites and near-perfect for the mortals.

I'm surprised that Wittenberg, et al had beauraucratic hassles with running down Broadway or an avenue given Doctoroff's apparent involvement in the event. I would think he could make things happen with NYPD and other powers that be, but I'll admit that my knowledge of the local power structure is fuzzy at best.

All in all, I was impressed with the event, so I'll leave any gripes about high entry fee or misplaced 9-mile markers (one avenue off, I think) to myself.
malmo
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 10:01AM - in reply to Shoup Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Shoup wrote:What's the "Men in Black Bldg"?
There's a mysterious buiding in Tribeca a few blocks north of City Hall; very tall brick building, no windows, no inviting entrance, just security cameras and guarded gates. I heard that people go in there and never come back.
MarathonMind
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 10:52AM - in reply to KevinM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
so I'll leave any gripes about high entry fee or misplaced 9-mile markers (one avenue off, I think) to myself.
If a mile marker was misplaced you'll not be able to verify it as the course is not USATF certified (or not on line yet anyway).

http://usatf.org/events/courses/search/searchResults.asp?courseID=&distance=21.0975&distanceUnits=km&distanceComparison=%3D&city=&state=NY&courseName=&courseStatus=A&courseType=R&drop=&dropComparison=&separation=&separationComparison=&certificationYear=&lastName=&queryType=basic&format=view&submit=Search
Ceritified
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 10:56AM - in reply to MarathonMind Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
MarathonMind wrote:

[quote]so I'll leave any gripes about high entry fee or misplaced 9-mile markers (one avenue off, I think) to myself.
If a mile marker was misplaced you'll not be able to verify it as the course is not USATF certified (or not on line yet anyway).

[/quote]

I don't think the course can ever be certified unless they did it that morning og the race. Furthermore, it can never be certified for records purposes because the start/finish is more than 30% apart.
KevinM
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 11:42AM - in reply to MarathonMind Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
MarathonMind wrote:

If a mile marker was misplaced you'll not be able to verify it as the course is not USATF certified (or not on line yet anyway).
[/quote]

I don't need verification -- the 9th mile was a minute slower than any other, and the 10th mile was a minute faster.
malmo
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 11:46AM - in reply to KevinM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
KevinM wrote:
I don't need verification -- the 9th mile was a minute slower than any other, and the 10th mile was a minute faster.
Plus the 9th mile was downhill wasn't it? Are you sure the mile marker was misplaced or was it some bozo just calling of splits?
TAGTS
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 11:49AM - in reply to KevinM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I know that I will probably get slammed but does it bother anyone that Meb can't seem to win. His marathons have been great but always second or third. He can't seem to find a way to win. This race was just another example.
KevinM
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 11:57AM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
malmo wrote:
Plus the 9th mile was downhill wasn't it?


Correct. MM8 was in the low-50s/high-40s on 7th Ave, MM9 was on 42nd street. All slightly downhill

Are you sure the mile marker was misplaced or was it some bozo just calling of splits?


No one calling splits. Hit my watch at the big NYRR "Mile 9" placard. Most likely some bozo set up between 10th and 11th when it should have been 9th and 10th (I believe those were the Aves). I was running mid-6s, so one ave should be roughly one minute, give or take.
malmo
RE: NYC Half results? 8/28/2006 11:58AM - in reply to TAGTS Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
TAGTS, why would that bother you or anyone else? That's the nature of being world class. The higher up you go, the victories become rarer. The fact that he's getting those 2nds and 3rds at that level is empirical proof of just how outstanding Keflezighi is.
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