Gouchers 400 splits

Looks like he had the balls to go for it, based on his 5km split!!

jason

atta' boy, 13:37 at the half!!

Even more telling is that he came through 2 miles at 26:55 pace. Either he really thought he was capable of sub 27:00 or he was stuck going out at the pace in order to keep contact with the pack.

13:37--14:22 ouch

From teh gun h ewas in the back and and by 3200 was in the middle of nowhere - he passed 1 guy by then but was way back of the end of the main pack. later that runner would re-pass him and he would come in 13th - 13seconds behind 12th. he would have placed further back but there was a lareg drop out rate. Please do not take any of this as a slam to Goucher - up thru 5k he was going fo ra fast time then just fell apart - may not have been the bets place/race to test out the distance, but give him credit for going at it.

You have to give the guy credit. He went out at a very fast pace and held on ran a solid time. Races like that are tough because you have to go out insanely fast to have people to run with. If he had tried to run 66s the whole way (27:25 pace), he would have been alone the entire race. He was forced to do 64s instead. Hopefully if he gets stronger next year, he can go out at that pace and hold on better and end up running a huge pr.

Yeah, let's all give him credit for biting off way more than he could chew?

Crash and burn return.

Aim High wrote:

Yeah, let's all give him credit for biting off way more than he could chew?

Crash and burn return.

What would you have done instead? Fall behind the pack in the first mile and try running an entire 10K race by yourself at 66 seconds per lap? Looks like he no choice ub to go with the 64 second laps.

I think crash and burn is a little severe for a 27:49.41.

I would give him credit for going out hard and hanging on even harder.

he went out too fast, and then died a terrible death and ran crappy. he knew what the field would be like. If he wasn't ready to run with that field, then no reason being in the race.

Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig.

Live and learn Adam

http://trackandfieldphoto.com/DisplayJpg.php?060825_1744_4228_RLM&next=1

wel what were the options? you go out through 2M at even pace then you are probably 100m or more down on the field. you're not even in the race. once again, this race wasn't the best place for someone who isn't a sub27type to set a PR. but he stuck his nose in it, so kudos to him

Live and learn Adam wrote:

Live and learn Adam

http://trackandfieldphoto.com/DisplayJpg.php?060825_1744_4228_RLM&next=1

Interesting pic. Look at the size of Goucher's upper body compared to the runner next to him. Ultimately, I think he is carrying just a little too much weight up top to be able to pop the extremely fast 10k (ie the AR). And don't give me the argument he only weighs 140something- it's all about the weight distribution. In good conditions, he could hit 27:30 for sure, probably even close to 27:20, but how much faster? Tough run, sub 28 after crashing is still pretty impressive. Wonder if he'll stick to the 5k...

It must drag you down a bit when three guys have finished the race and are standing around as you get the "one lap to go call"

He went out fast and tried to ride the bus as long as he could .Someone mentioned that your planned pace goes to crap if noone else is running at that pace. 25 laps gets lonley.

Since I'm not a pro, and he is supposed to be, it doesn't matter what I would "have done instead"! He had to know that sticking with the field would screw his performance, how many years does he have to race professionally before finally figuring it out? No choice, my arse.

as opposed to trying to pace it out and being in no man's land from the beginning? i thin he took the lesser of two evils. it wsa the only 10000m left this summer, might as well try for it.

why does everyone have to be all "kudos" and "great effort" whenever a US runner goes out with the leaders and then dies in the latter part of the race? I mean, maybe he ran tough, maybe he didn't, but it's not like it's some great accomplishment to start out fast and then slow down.

It seems like some posters act like it's this huge moral victory for any American to run a couple of laps with the leaders. Someone like Goucher, who has run 13:10, shouldn't cause that much surprise if he's able to open with 13:37. I doubt he personally feels particularly excited that he was able to "mix it up" for a few laps

well i am not saying he is a god because he died, but not to bash him because he did. it was going to be tough from the beginning, he tried his hand and who knows 9 out fo ten times the same outcome may have happened, but you run these situations in the hopes it might pan out

f*ck the haters. he went for it. it was his first world class 10k. he died in the second half and *still* went sub 28 which is a dream for 99.9 percent of us. this has (arguably) been his best professional season and i look forward to the next couple.....