He seems to have the same kind of range.
Teg 1500 3:38 3k 7:42 5k 13:04
He seems to have the same kind of range.
Teg 1500 3:38 3k 7:42 5k 13:04
seems reasonable, but kennedy has run that fast or faster close to ten times, teg needs to show that he is consistent and that this isn't just a one time thing
only 24 years old
shit wrote:
He seems to have the same kind of range.
Teg 1500 3:38 3k 7:42 5k 13:04
The question is if Teg runs 12:57 or low 12:58 to beat Kennedy's AR, then is he better than Kennedy? I'd say yes.
Kennedy has been being reeled in for a while now anyway.
His 2-mile AR -- gone to Webb
His 10,000 PR -- beaten by Webb and Ritz
His 5,000 AR -- close be Teg and Lagat
The only thing remaining for Kennedy to show he's the best is that 5,000 AR. Once it's gone, he's not it anymore.
7:30 for 3k, he will have for a while, but perhaps Lagat could get it or Webb, I see no one else being able to. Teg maybe 7:33.
Kennedy ran 13;02 at age 24 so they are close at this point in their careers.
Kennedy completely dominates the all-time list for 5000 performances. One race isn't going to diminish that.
R.L. Scribner wrote:
Kennedy completely dominates the all-time list for 5000 performances. One race isn't going to diminish that.
Henry Marsh got to be the best US steepler even though Mark Croghan had the bulk of the top 10 times, but Henry got to be tops because he had the record. Is not Lincoln now the best US steepler ever? I say yes. Marsh was ranked higher in the world when he ran, but that was a different era. Got to go by times, and Lincoln is the best.
Once Kennedy's record is gone, whomever tops it is the best. Kennedy was king for a long time, but his reign is soon over.
Kennedy at 23yrs old almost 24
1500 3:38.74
mile 3:56.21
3000 7:35.33 AR at the time
5000 13:02.93 but had run a few others close to that.
age 20 he ran 13:22
The thing I liked about Kennedy was he mixed it up with top morrocans, kenyans etc.. consistently. Not just his times.
Forget the "times" as track surfaces get faster, and equipment gets higher tech. What remains the measurement of greatness in a certain event for Americans is how they place in the World Championships and the Olympics. Those races require competing in heats and some times tactical finals. Medals set apart the great ones from the rest.
xpert wrote:
Forget the "times" as track surfaces get faster, and equipment gets higher tech. What remains the measurement of greatness in a certain event for Americans is how they place in the World Championships and the Olympics. Those races require competing in heats and some times tactical finals. Medals set apart the great ones from the rest.
Wrong. There are down years, top guys get injured, etc. Track is simple. There's a distance. You run that distance. Whoever runs it fastest is the best. If you didn't happen to be on the line on the day with perfect conditions, then too bad; you missed out.
i hope i am wrong, but he doesnt seem to be sturdy enough, he is hurt all the time
this couldn't happen to a better guy. i've spoken with teg before and he is a class act. out of all of the great runners i've had the opportunity to chat with he seemed to be one of the most humble and excited about what he is doing. he is absolutely thrilled to be a professional runner.
Chocolate wrote:
Track is simple. There's a distance. You run that distance. Whoever runs it fastest is the best. If you didn't happen to be on the line on the day with perfect conditions, then too bad; you missed out.
That's quite a change from the sport that I remember, in which people actually race one another, and the one who crosses the finish line first is the best.
Granted, it's hard to compare runners across generations without looking at times, but looking at times without looking at wins and losses is pretty myopic.
Did Kennedy ever have a long stretch off due to injury?
njl2 wrote:
i hope i am wrong, but he doesnt seem to be sturdy enough, he is hurt all the time
from what I understand (basically that just means that I've heard some speculation)that was at least somewhat related to the fact that he grew like 3 or so inches during school...
let's hope this is the new Teg
MarathonMind wrote:
Did Kennedy ever have a long stretch off due to injury?
Yeah, its commonly referred to as "retirement"
I've never read about it anywhere, but I did see BK speak once where he talked about having a stress fracture, though he didn't mention when. He also hurt his back in a car accident in 2000.
Don't forget Kennedy's olympic performance. That counts for a lot.