Kenenisa Bekele said he wants a fast pace and Augustine Choge also in the lineup.
Kenenisa Bekele said he wants a fast pace and Augustine Choge also in the lineup.
if the AR doesnt go down, im gonna have to shoot my cock off.
Bekele-Mottram-Lagat-Choge-Kipchoge-Goucher-Webb what a race!! I hear they restrict the pacemakers in London to 12:55 pace so that there's a real race with 600 to go rather than time trial. I think that was the case anyway last two years with Mottram? How would Lagat finish in a 12:55 race against these guys?
He doesn't race the distance much but his record is pretty good - Lagat has won 8 in a row at the distance dating back to 1999. You get the impression he runs as hard as he needs to win - the big win in Berlin last year is the only time he's faced really world-class opposition it seems.....
13:36.12 1 Cardinal Stanford CA 7 May 1999
13:35.10 1 StanfR Stanford CA 25 Mar 2000
13:23.46 1r2 MSR Walnut CA 14 Apr 2000
13:30.54 1r3 MSR Walnut CA 20 Apr 2001
13:19.14 1r2 MSR Walnut CA 19 Apr 2002
13:14.71 1r3 MSR Walnut CA 15 Apr 2005
12:59.29 1 ISTAF Berlin 4 Sep 2005
13:14.32 1 NC Indianapolis IN 23 Jun 2006
5000 epic wrote:
Bekele-Mottram-Lagat-Choge-Kipchoge-Goucher-Webb what a race!! I hear they restrict the pacemakers in London to 12:55 pace so that there's a real race with 600 to go rather than time trial. I think that was the case anyway last two years with Mottram? How would Lagat finish in a 12:55 race against these guys?
I doubt that though. Bekele wants a fast paced race, Bekele gets a fast paced race.
Lagat 12:50 baby.
Bekele will get spanked a few times this year. KB has become a bit of a party boy and his training has suffered as a result.
heard it through the grapevine wrote:
Bekele will get spanked a few times this year. KB has become a bit of a party boy and his training has suffered as a result.
I've heard the same. KB taking a liking to the ladies. Paris and especially Rome will be very interesting
I thought it was AJ's sub-4 attempt?
heard it through the grapevine wrote:
Bekele will get spanked a few times this year. KB has become a bit of a party boy and his training has suffered as a result.
Where did you get this? Ive heard him say before he was a stay out home body in past interviews.
friend of a friend.re: home body - was true in the past, but he has now become a party boy. things change for everyone. although his loss earlier this year may have been a wakeup call.
?? wrote:
heard it through the grapevine wrote:Bekele will get spanked a few times this year. KB has become a bit of a party boy and his training has suffered as a result.
Where did you get this? Ive heard him say before he was a stay out home body in past interviews.
grapevine wrote:
friend of a friend.
re: home body - was true in the past, but he has now become a party boy. things change for everyone. although his loss earlier this year may have been a wakeup call.
?? wrote:Where did you get this? Ive heard him say before he was a stay out home body in past interviews.
People on this board are so FULL OF SH*T.. he has NOT become a party boy..even the great ones lose from time to time.
This should be a great race!
Bekele will ask for a fast pace and get it, no question.
Lagat is as close a runner as you can get to El G and we all know what happened when Kenenisa took on El G last time over 5k.
That said whilst I'd give it off a slow pace to Lagat from 200 out, from 4-800 if KB made a drive I think he might still get him, he does have astonishing top end speed and speed endurance for a 5-10k runner.
Nevertheless, I'm definitely looking forward to this, might see if I can get tickets!
there is a great 5k in paris on july 8th, and the whole meet on july 8th is incredidible, as is london, we just wont have to wait until the 29th for a great 5k.
Bekele have not been partying anymore than he has in the past. Yes it true his life isn't as stoic as some of the past distance greats during their prime;however, he isn't a wildman or loose cannon. Bernard Lagat has faced world class athletes twice last year, once in the 5000m race mentioned and in the below 3000m race:
2005 WORLD ATHLETIC FINAL
Athlete Nat Mark Order
1..Lagat Bernard USA 7:38.00 (SB)
2..Kipchoge Eliud KEN 7:38.95
3..Choge Augustine Kiprono KEN 7:39.99
4..Limo Benjamin KEN 7:40.22
5..Bekele Tariku ETH 7:40.30
6..Korir Shadrack KEN 7:40.97
7..Songok Boniface Kiprotich KEN 7:40.98
8..Saïdi-Sief Ali ALG 7:41.61
9..Geneti Markos ETH 7:41.76
10.Goumri Abderrahim MAR 7:43.93 (SB)
2005 BERLIN 5000m
1..Lagat Bernard USA 12:59.29
2..Limo Benjamin KEN 13:01.45
3..Kipketer Sammy KEN 13:01.55
4..Choge Augustine Kiprono KEN 13:01.62
5..Geneti Markos ETH 13:02.85
6..Songok Boniface Kiprotich KEN 13:04.44
7..Kemboi Nicholas QAT 13:10.36
8..Webb Alan USA 13:10.86
9..Kibowen John KEN 13:23.66
10.Ebuya Joseph KEN 13:24.82
11..Feleke Abreham Cherkos ETH 13:25.65
twice he defeated the World 5000m Champion, he defeated the 2nd & 3rd fastest 5000m runners of 2005 at 12:50.22 Eliud and 12:50.25 Abderrahim, 3:29 and 12:50 guy Ali Sief, WJR 3000 & 5000m Augustine. Many forget Bernard is also a former 3000m World Indoor Champion. He runs incredible over the 3000m/5000m distance and as one poster pointed out-he has been running only as fast as he needed to win.
If it slow enough yes it could be anyone's race. The likelihood of anyone beating a healthy Bernard Lagat in a 12:53 and slower race isn't very good. I haven't lost faith in Kenenisa Bekele but he has to start uping the pace significantly from over 1000m in 12:55 races or engineer 12:43-12:48 more often. Their are too many 3:30 type runners with great endurance for Kenenisa to continue to allow races to unfold at barely sub 13 pace and hope to outkick all the 3:30 and faster type 1500m runners.
Is Abraham Chebii also running?
make sure you have a scope on that rifle. (objects ahead of you are smaller than they appear)
Bernie goes sub 12:53 for the win!! USA!!! USA!!! (sort of)
Maybe Kenny could join us as well.
You know I like the topic but I wondered how long before somebody tried to throw in Webb or Ritz or some other "decent" american runner thinking they could even hang on. I am sorry guys, granted webb is good for an american but he could not hang with the above mentioned runners. He is a 13:10 hopefully 13:05 guy....He's done it once! The above mentioned have ran sub 13 many times. Yes Lagat only once but he actually has the speed/endurance and speed to run it many times! He, as long as he is healthy is our future and only chance for a medal in the distance track events for the next 5 or so years! I think Webb and company needs to look down the list of africans to about 25ish-40, call those guys to get a race with people his level....remember Dan Browne had to plead to get into the A race at a lesser europe meet, got in with a bunch of 13:10 guys trying to run sub 13 started last, picked nearly everyone off and pr'ed at 13:16....Now does anyone think DB has Webbs speed? No, but does he race alot smarter (3rd at nats 10k with lots of rust) YES!
Go Lagat
Your on the wrong thread if you want to discuss upcoming Americans that fine but none of them are in the Race of the Year. This is about Bernard Lagat, Kenenisa Bekele , Eliud Kipchoge, Benjamin Limo, Augustine Choge, Craig Mottram etc and others participating in an amazing Golden League 5000m race in July.
Vipam wrote:
Your on the wrong thread if you want to discuss upcoming Americans that fine but none of them are in the Race of the Year. This is about Bernard Lagat, Kenenisa Bekele , Eliud Kipchoge, Benjamin Limo, Augustine Choge, Craig Mottram etc and others participating in an amazing Golden League 5000m race in July.
It's not only London, Rome has the potential to be the fastest of the three big 5000s in July. Paris is a good field but Rome has Songok, Kipchoge & Choge against Bekele. Maybe Kenny pushes the pace to see if he can run away from Songok....