Masters Weekend Races and Runs

OldXCguy wrote:BTW, Pete, what are you doing to fill the void now that 24 is done for the season? I still have not seen the first three seasons, so I plan to view those during the "off-season."

jim, you make me curios. what makes you smiling?

MF,

Thanks and also looking forward to Hayward. I haven't received the official blessing from the wife, but since my son will be accompanying me it should be no problem. Besides I've paid my entry fee, and I've booked my hotel room. Thanks for the link on Kenny Moore's book.

Have a great week all.

Ghost of Igloi

Hi everyone. I've been buried in exams (grading) for the last couple of weeks. Did make it to the Pre last weekend, and really enjoyed watching Goucher and Lincoln run as well as they did.

My own running is in a bit of a holding pattern. My calf is acting up a bit again, so I've reverted to a diet of long/slow distance. I'm looking forward to turning 50 next month.

It's great to see you on here, Mr. Rono. I wish I'd been in the Northwest back in the day, so I could've seen some of your fantastic performances.

OK, I just can't resist posting, even though I'm regretably just a 'lurker' in the running community these days. A couple of years ago I was pretty thrilled to find old friends like Fanelli posting here - a great way to keep up with them.

Now Henry Rono is posting?! I mean (no offense Fanelli!) that is crazy. I was a teenager in the Ovett/Coe/Rono etc. era. [An 18 year old Ovett gave out the prizes at my high school sports day in Brighton one year.] But back to Rono: my man, it's so great that you're here, so great that you're running.

This is the best thread on letsrun and your (yes, long) path back will be guided well here... Could I be back on the track at the same time as you...?

AD

still running very little as I adjust to the latest insert - everything has to go by plan. Lifting and bought a nordic - can only do 6 minutes on it so far! Still doing yoga.

It is so nice to have you Henry.

16x

In response to davies:

Rono and Salzar were the stars when I was a collegian, and our eyes were always on them. It is a bit nostalgic.

16x

Pete, I must say, 83 miles, I'm living through you bro.

davies,

I just came from long run 118 minutes,and I'm mentally tired, I count my mileage now days on minutes and don't ask me why.I do it at sandia mountains in New Mexico,Albuquerque.Stay tune on letsrun.com and I will be back to answer your questions after, I take cat-nape and my mind will be strong to post on the thread.

right!

Henry

HR,

You're the man! Good success with the training and weight loss. You will find lots of friends and encouragement here, especially this 'Masters' thread. OMBTS has captured a number of talented and knowledgeable runners on this weekly tribute to running and life. Lots of support.

1500Master

Right on, man! This is great. Accept that tendons and ligaments will be slower responding than your muscles to training, so be kind to yourself. Good luck. Thanks for signing my program at the Cow Palace back when (winter '78).

My goal this Friday is to spot Tony no more than 2 minutes. I would have said somewhat less, but then I saw his Wed. workout. Mine was a meager 16:18 for 3 miles, cutting down from 5:36, 5:27, 5:15 with a lot of run left in my legs. But it was brutal -- I did it on the treadmill (for what seemed like sound reasons at the time).

This weekend was 5/ 10 and 15.

Duct tape, ice, and peace!

RB, Welcome back !

mike fanelli wrote:

Am looking forward to PA masters meet...kinda cool that we get to compete on the same track as where past two Oly Trials were held (and on the week prior, the track where the 2008 trials will be held...kinda like geezer fantasy tracks)...from everything that I've seen about it to date it looks as though the fleet feet team and Doug Thurston and Randy Sturgeon appear top be doing just a great job...really love the meet logo and hoping that the

meet t-shirt is emblazoned with it.

MF

Hi Mike- While Randy and Doug certainly have played important parts in the PA meet planning and implementation, there are several others who have been working their tails off to make this a great event! Ron Richardson, assisted by Rick Anderson (both from American River College), are the Meet Directors. Dusty Robinson, Marketing Director for Fleet Feet Sports, has been instrumental in putting this whole thing together- without him we would not be having this meet. And, Joy Upshaw-Margerum is coordinating the officials which is of HUGE help! This should be a fun event and I hope the logo (which Dusty designed) is all over the shirts! I look forward to seeing you in Sac-

RB

Thank you! :)

Back from KC and Hospital Hill. Women's Half Champs, hot day in the hills but our top 3 women all ran prs, pretty impressed with that. Winner Annie Bersagel was on the team I took to Yokohama in February, real nice girl and smart as a whip. Going to Norway on a Fulbright Scholarship, we'll miss her while she's gone. Masters athlete Tere Stouffer of Knoxville, TN finished 9th o/a in 1:19:08. 43F I coach popped her hammy less than 50m into the race, she was crushed and I was nearly heartbroken knowing how fit she was.

Elsewhere Carmen Ayala Troncoso (47) claimed her 5th Masters title at the Freihofer's Run For Women 5K in a very nice 17:10 on a cold and rainy day.

Personal highlight of the weekend though was watching my 3 kids ride The Patriot rollercoaster at World's of Fun amusement park. A wild, scare the beegeezus, fill your drawers 2 minutes and 18 seconds, amazing to see courage where I have absolutely none.

jba wrote:

jim, you make me curios. what makes you smiling?

Many things. It's good to see people still hammering it out despite being decades out of school. There is a certain commonality in terms of experiences, injuries, etc. and a humor that comes from reflection and perspective.

It's like when I line up at the development runs at my local park on Wednesday evenings (and I am told that Henry Rono actually showed up at one many years ago when he was in Utica, NY). There's a very hilly 10k that many of us do as a workout and when the gun goes off there'll be 20 teenagers ahead of you. By mile one at the top of the first hill, 1/2 have already fallen back, and as the hills progress, more fall off. We older guys just pick them off and smile. It's kind of funny because we know it's going to happen!

Also, these are among the few threads on letsrun that are very positive, supportive, and interesting, and which don't suffer from an excess of juvenile message board antics.

Hello, Mr. Rono. I was just looking at your PRs and comparing your 1500m, mile, 2000m, and 3000m. You could run 59s for 1500m, just-under 60s for a mile, and keep going at 60-point for up to 7.5 laps. How did you do it? Is there anything you would have done differently- maybe to increase your speed over 1500m? Or were you training more for the longer distances and the steeple?

I used to hear a legend about your 8:05 steeple WR- the legend was that you didn't touch a barrier or get wet. How true is that? (Part of the legend came from Patrick Sang- and when he told the story, he had a look of pure awe on his face- like a far-away stare and then a little shake, like he was trying to imagine it and then he had to shudder, and then he would look at me and try to smile, and then he would mutter about shin splints and stress fractures and kind of walk away. Like he needed some time alone to reconcile it in his mind before he could deal with an idiot like me- But then, and then- when he came back, he was just plain ferocious.)

If you really could hurdle the water barrier, you must have had incredible jumping ability- did that translate into very much 200m speed? How fast could you run 200m? Would you recommend jumping excercises for young runners?

thanks

Max

A solid week of 3 runs in preparation for a 5k next weekend. Body is healthy so all is well.

Tues - 8 X 1000 w/200 jog

Thurs - 30 minutes of hills

Sat - 5 miles easy running

Sun - bike race

Managed to jump in a 50 mile bike race again this weekend and it went well. I don't think I'll be switching over - I can't get used to the fact that many, many guys can stay with the pack when there are clear fitness differences. Oh well. I had fun anyway.

And to Henry......please continue to share your achievements with us. This thread is a group of 'older' (I should say 'more experienced') runners that won't write negative comments on things that are posted. And we like to share advice - especially with injuries which are far too frequent at the advanced ages! Although I use a nickname myself, my comments are honest - as are the other things you read in this Master's thread. So, I'm glad you're here.

PVG-NRT-DTW!! and I get to do it again in July!

Skinnbones wrote:

Managed to jump in a 50 mile bike race again this weekend and it went well. I don't think I'll be switching over - I can't get used to the fact that many, many guys can stay with the pack when there are clear fitness differences. Oh well. I had fun anyway.

You don't need to 'switch over' skinn, just keep showing up race day and keep things interesting & honest! I share your frustration (you found out what it was like to be stuck in the back) but we gotta figure out how to 'make things happen' in the races.