I know I said earlier that doctors are the worst people in America. However, I recently changed my mind and decided that Chiropractors are the scum of the earth. Yes, conventional medicine is clearly a failure, but Chiropractors just exploit peoples' lack of faith in doctors to sell their own brand of pseudoscience. I think all Chiropractors should be put in jail.
Your anger would be greatly reduced if you'd just get your spine realigned.
i hate chiropractors wrote:
Yes, conventional medicine is clearly a failure, but Chiropractors just exploit peoples' lack of faith in doctors to sell their own brand of pseudoscience.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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I understand that they may be complete bull shit... but how do you explain the fact that chiropractors have helped thousands of people, and personally they have helped me a TON. I understand that it may be mental.. but on multiple occasions i have walked out of a clinic in considerably less pain then when i walked. How can they be the Scum of the earth if they are relieving peoples pain?
Let me just say that I don't go to a chiropractor because I don't have any problems. Would I go if I did? I don't know, but I would probably consider it.
Okay, so instead of going to a chiropractor, there are two main ways to deal with pain. One could take a pill that alleviates the pain or just have surgury.
Since you clearly do not like chiropractors, let me propose a question for you. What's worse: taking a man-made chemical, having someone cut into your body(also involving drugs), or going to a chiropractor?
Of the three, chiropractics has the least side effects and is the least invasive.
What do you care if people go to chiropractors? If it solves their problems, then why do you give a shit? Maybe the relief is only temporary, but so is the relief from taking pills. Surgery rarely gets the job done either and can cause more problems.
Chiropractics may not give longterm relief, but really, what does? I know a guy who spent thousands on back surgery and still takes pain pills everyday. Maybe a chiropractor would have helped him, but he thinks they are a "pseudoscience" also. I don't really care if he pollutes his body with pain pills, but he could have given chiropractics a shot.
Just shove another pill down your throat and let Big Pharma get richer.
how many chiros does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
jst one, but it takes 12 visits.
Well aren't you just the most credible person, changing your opinion so suddenly.
what abotu car salemen? or anyone in business for that matter? you see the problem isn't a profession it is the society we live in. It's all about getting ahead and making a buck. Economics are civilizations greatest enemy. with money their would be no modern day war over oil, and a lot less greed (enron).
so step off the doctors, and now chiropractors, and all other professions (and don't even consider starting a lawyers or dentists thread cause we are smart enough to know that they do it too) and start changing the world rather than complaining about it.
It's wrong to go to chiropractors because chiropratic is a flagarent pseudoscience. The claim that "subluxations" cause disease by blocking "nerve flow" is pseudoscience. Anyone who sells pseudoscience is a quack. Yes, drugs and surgery suck. but at least medical doctors aren't lying to you and ripping you off.
I used to go to chiropractors and I loved chiropractic adjustments. I eventually examined my thinking very closely and discovered that I liked it for no other reason than I liked it and I expected it to work. I stopped going and nothing changed.
Chiropractic is shit.
oh and to all you chiropractic defenders- don't try to change the subject by attacking medical doctors. yes, allopathy sucks, but that has nothing to do with the validity of chiropractic. Anyone who defends chiropractic by attacking allopathy is guilty of bad argumentation, just like Jeremy Huffman.
Not all chiropractors believe that "subluxations" interrupt "nerve flow." I'm a recent grad and that theory is slowly dying. Just like with any health professional, get input from others on who is credible and you'll most likely find it is a valid form of treatment. There are many chiros currently involved in the newest rehabilitation practices and soft tissue manipulation as well as adjusting of spine and extremities. Physical therapists and some MDs are actually starting to incorporate adjusting into their treatment. It's better to exhaust all forms of treatment that aren't invasive rather than jumping into a surgery that may be unnecessary and may make one worse.
hmmm, i had great relief for a major back injury from just one chiro treatment following an ER visit followed by 3 trips to my MD (who i like but was useless in this case).
All the ER and MD offered was to put me in traction, pain meds (oral) and injections in the butt.
JTH wrote:
hmmm, i had great relief for a major back injury from just one chiro treatment following an ER visit followed by 3 trips to my MD (who i like but was useless in this case).
All the ER and MD offered was to put me in traction, pain meds (oral) and injections in the butt.
A lot of these personal anecdotes are blind luck. I happen to see a massage therapist that is awesome, but that doesn't mean it's the only valid treatment. There are quacks in every field and there are good practitioners in every field. Get personal recommendations and maybe you'll find a good doctor, a good surgeon, a good chiro, and a good massage therapist. That's your best option.
chiropractors are a ripoff
KnowItAll wrote:
JTH wrote:hmmm, i had great relief for a major back injury from just one chiro treatment following an ER visit followed by 3 trips to my MD (who i like but was useless in this case).
All the ER and MD offered was to put me in traction, pain meds (oral) and injections in the butt.
A lot of these personal anecdotes are blind luck. I happen to see a massage therapist that is awesome, but that doesn't mean it's the only valid treatment. There are quacks in every field and there are good practitioners in every field. Get personal recommendations and maybe you'll find a good doctor, a good surgeon, a good chiro, and a good massage therapist. That's your best option.
I have a friend that is a chiropracter and I get free adjustments and massages. Am I getting ripped off? I'm sorry some of you have such a bone to pick with chiropracters because they have helped my running greatly. My chiropracter actually does a lot of the same stuff as the orthopedic people I have worked with on running injury prevention type of stuff.
No, there is a third option. See a doctor who will recommend a good physical therapist. They treat everything a good chiropractor is capable of treating and usually do a better job of it.
fact that says it all about chiropractors:
In the history of the world, nobody has ever visited a chiropractor and heard the words, "everything in your back looks fine..."
They always say you need to come back for something.
They are scum.
townie wrote:
In the history of the world, nobody has ever visited a chiropractor and heard the words, "everything in your back looks fine..."
They always say you need to come back for something.
Funny point but a great point! It actually makes me laugh just thinking about a chiropractor saying that.
My ART specialist is a chiropractor, and I have nothing but good things to say about my visits to his office. I can say that I'm fortunate my health insurance covers a majority of the costs, otherwise the frequent visits would have piled up--so I understand the irritation about the high number of appointments you have to make. I'd still contend that it's a far better option than surgery though...
From personal experience, at least one of them is definitely a non-quack. About five years ago I woke up with a pain in the upper-middle of my back. After ignoring it as best as possible for a few weeks I sought medical attention. Basically my doctor said take Advil. This did not help. Pain stayed for months.
Finally my sister (a nurse practitioner) and wife (a chiro junky) convinced me to give it a try. Went to wife’s chiro, a practitioner from the quintessential herky jerky chiro school. Hated it. Made me very nervous having some guy snapping my neck and back around. Didn’t solve or reduce the problem.
Then the sister convinced me to try her chiro, a practitioner of the ‘give my back a nice warm massage while she figures out how far out of whack my vertebrae (or whatever) was, and then use a little tapper tool to put it back in place’ chiro school. Great experience, and it worked! For about a year or so the vert would slip back into its painful mode every once in a while, and I’d return for another adjustment. Haven’t had to visit for years, but would not hesitate in the least if something came up.