WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY

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RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 6:16PM - in reply to Great White Hope

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 6:32PM - in reply to CHYNAMAN

Obviously is right - and I know I can't do a thing about it but I think your username is ugly at best, "Great White Hope", it sounds like a sign the ku klux klan would fly at a meet where craig mottram is running at. To wonder about genetic differences in races is one thing but to say - Great White Hope - just lame

CHYNAMAN wrote:

He means of African descent. Obviously.

lovfreds

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 6:36PM - in reply to doug225550

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ritz 27:30
webb 27:50 -28:00 (still doing base work)

or

ritz 27:20
webb pacing ritz

4435 out

Dan Onymous

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 7:15PM - in reply to sheister

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sheister wrote:

I think some of you guys are getting a bit excited about 10km times, under 27.30 for a non-african is fricken smoking, Mottrams PB is still around 27.50ish I think even though he hasn't had a good stab for a while. I think if webb runs sub 28 then thats a really good run for him, and if Rutz can PB at all then thats a bloody good run for him. Although many of you will get excited and say that Ritz will be able to strip minutes of that later in the year.

I guarantee Ritz, Webb, and Mottram aren't thinking of what's good for a "non-African" (it's OK, you can say white here.) 27:30 is what it is -- thirty to forty seconds away from being a medal contender and over a minute from the world record.

xcman1500

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 8:42PM - in reply to doug225550

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all of you said that ritz would crush webb in the two mile at prefontaine last year, look what happened, if ritz has a bad day, which we all know he is capable of, webb could run away with the race, but, I have to go with ritz, simply because he knows the distance better. The same way that I would go with webb in a mile race

Flagpole Willy

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 8:57PM - in reply to sheister

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sheister wrote:

I think some of you guys are getting a bit excited about 10km times, under 27.30 for a non-african is fricken smoking, Mottrams PB is still around 27.50ish I think even though he hasn't had a good stab for a while. I think if webb runs sub 28 then thats a really good run for him, and if Rutz can PB at all then thats a bloody good run for him. Although many of you will get excited and say that Ritz will be able to strip minutes of that later in the year.

Umm..."minutes" off his personal best would be at least 25:38. Even I think that's a bit quick for him. Don't say things we haven't said.

Great White Hope

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 9:07PM - in reply to hrunner

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hrunner wrote:

Obviously is right - and I know I can't do a thing about it but I think your username is ugly at best, "Great White Hope", it sounds like a sign the ku klux klan would fly at a meet where craig mottram is running at. To wonder about genetic differences in races is one thing but to say - Great White Hope - just lame

He means of African descent. Obviously.

Here we go again. I know he means of African descent, and I'm poking fun at it, because I do think there are some physiological and genetic differences between races, particularly when it comes to distance runners or sprinters... And yes, I would like to see someone of non-African descent make his mark on the International scene, particularly from this country -- rather than the US having to import its talent like Meb and Abdi. And no, it is NOT a racist remark. We are all truly of African descent, no?

gee gosh

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 9:18PM - in reply to Great White Hope

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i didn't know that usatf imported meb from eritrea

i thought that his father walked across eastern africa, got to italy and sent money to get his family and then saved more and transported the entire family (something like 9 brothers and sisters) to the US in search of a better, more peaceful life -- what do they call that dream.... gosh, i forget

but, wow, usatf IMPORTS runners, like Qatar and Barhain? i thought we just take the best available, eligible to run for the USA and then whoever finishes 1, 2 or 3 goes.

but importing runners, i had no idea...

Great White Hope

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 9:31PM - in reply to gee gosh

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No shit Sherlock. Meb's story is amazing and uplifting, no doubt. But you get the gist of what I'm saying (of course we didn't directly IMPORT him). I don't get terribly inspired by yet another Kenyan or Ethiopian running a sub-27 minute 10k. It is a dime a dozen for the Africans. It would be more inspiring to our next generation of up-and-coming runners to see someone in the underdog role, like a Ritz or Goucher, step up and prove he's capable of competing on the International scene, rather than gettng excited about a 27:30 10k or a couple of guys running a 2:11 marathon on a downhill course.

English guy

RE: WEBB VS RITZ AT STANFORD 10k SUNDAY 4/26/2006 9:47PM - in reply to Great White Hope

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