Mike Woods Not Allowed to Run NCAA Mile

Wejo - I agree 100%, but I think you have your meets mixed up. There's no collegiate section of the Boston Indoor Games.

He ran the time so let the boy run!

You're right, but... wrote:

Wejo - I agree 100%, but I think you have your meets mixed up. There's no collegiate section of the Boston Indoor Games.

you mean this collegiate division was a figment of our collective imaginations?

another ridiculous situation from the ncaa.

something similar happened a few years ago with the Reno Pole Vault Summit, it got a special exemption.

This would suck for woods.

I don't know if this really counts as a hot tip though:

From mgoblue.com:

Second In Command

Sophomore Mike Woods (Ottawa, Ontario/Hillcrest HS) owns the nation's second-fastest time in the 3,000-meter run. He clocked a personal-best 7:52.27 to win the 3,000m at the Meyo Invitational and trails only Arizona's Robert Cheseret (7:50.40) on the national performance list. Woods also blazed a time of 3:57.87 at the Boston Indoor Games (Jan. 28), a mark which would rank just 0.47 seconds behind the national leader Richard Kiplagat of Iona, but the annual meet has been excluded for NCAA consideration times.

I must not be seeing this then

Reebok Boston Indoor Games (Collegiate Division)

1/27/06 Reggie Lewis Track & Athletic Center

http://www.directathletics.com/results/track/3176.html

Oops, my bad! I never saw anything put out by the BIG people mentioning this meet one bit.

that's because it's not a particularly high quality meet, as you will see from the results.

I find it hard to be sympathetic given that this has happened a few times recently and I would have thought that Michigan would have checked to make sure the result was legit, or had Mike run another mile somewhere.

Yes, its bad news for the individual but maybe this time all the big schools will finally take note, and hopefully it will not happen again.

Check with TB over at Trackshark, just recently he had an article or link to something about how marks from the Reno Pole Vault Summit that are going to be allowed. Not sure if this is a similar situation, but it might be. Also, marks from BIG have been allowed before, correct?

This is not new. There used to be a great College DMR at this meet. The NCAA made an exception one year, allowing the marks. I want to say it was the year that Cragg set the CR in the 3k and Shalane ran up there. However, the NCAA has made it very clear that meets must follow the rules. Woods is an amazing runner, but I know that coaches have been warned about these rules.

Playing devil's advocate, what stops two coaches from different schools to put on a meet and set up a fast mile. One of the coach's "good buddies" is an official and all of a sudden they have qualifiers. Don't think this has not been done before. The Santa Monica Distance Carnival was always suspect. So was the George Mason meet. Guys would PR by about 4 seconds in the 1500 and never come close again.

Actually, you are seeing this. The problem is that you are not looking at it.

http://www.directathletics.com/results/track/3176_198211.html#round4_heat2

Boston Indoor Games.... Isn't that where former teammate of Woods, Nate Brannen ran a 3:55.something last year and the whole controversy over it being an NCAA record occurred (hand time vs. FAT time). I'm pretty sure that Nate's time counted.

If they let the Pole Vault Summit results in, you have to let shit streaks time in. He ran the time. Shit Streak, shit streak.

George W. Bush is the greatest leader in the history of mankind.

There is an article up on the front page of Trackshark about this.

xc99 wrote:

I find it hard to be sympathetic given that this has happened a few times recently and I would have thought that Michigan would have checked to make sure the result was legit, or had Mike run another mile somewhere.

Yes, its bad news for the individual but maybe this time all the big schools will finally take note, and hopefully it will not happen again.

BIG held a collegiate meet as well and, from all appearances, fulfills ncaa requirements. there is no logical reason for his result to not count.

I think nate's time did count as a collegiate mark since he was still in college but I dont think it was allowed as an NCAA qualifying mark. And when you look at the college division meet how come Michigan isnt in the team results?

I think the main reason that Wood's time should not be allowed to be used as a qualifier is because they were exclusive about WHICH college athletes they let in to the meet. I know that Ponsonby tried to get into that race but they wouldn't let him run.

As such, I imagine that certain other Michigan Alumni only said they would run if Woods was allowed to run the meet.

That's my $.02

Ok, the collegiate part was added on so that the meet would count towards qualifying...so i'm not sure what all this is about. The marks are all legit. THe meet has more then enough events with the collegiate division being added in on the friday before.