When did Boulder jump the shark?

.in this event i would ... wrote:

I have to laugh at this. Frank Shorter peaked almost 35 years ago and he still has you by the balls. Did he dump your Mom or something?

Frank never lost a race. A few times guys that were drugged or cheated in some fashion finished in front of him. I know this because Frank has told us all. I also have great respect for a man that can dump his wife and start f***ing someone 30 years his younger. Am I jealous? Hell Yes. He is a living breathing representative of the type of folks that Boulder produces.

While reading the press release regarding the cross trials being located in Boulder, I nearly spit out my coffee. Pete Julian a very nice and well meaning man referred to Boulder as "the running mecca".

Mark Wetmore does a terrific job at University of Colorado, but Boulder has not been the "running mecca" in nearly 20 years. California had 2 Olympic medals in the marathon and the middle distance runners in Palo Alto would kick Boulders ass nearly every year. Hell the Hansons are doing a better job in the snow in Michigan than Boulder is. Those crazy kids in Boulder I think believe that B.S. that is being spewed by Pete.

Take a look at Boulder in the Marathon this year.

Year 2005 Performances- Marathon Road

USA Men

2:13:27 ( 9) Brian Sell (MI) 11 Apr 1978 13 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

2:13:39 a ( 4) Alan Culpepper (CO) 15 Sep 1972 18 Apr 2005 Boston MA USA

2:16:57 a ( 5) Chad Johnson (MN) 20 Apr 1976 09 Jan 2005 Phoenix AZ USA

2:17:14 a ( 5) Clint Verran (MI) 17 May 1975 13 Feb 2005 Austin TX USA

2:17:32 a (10) Peter Gilmore (CA) 11 May 1977 18 Apr 2005 Boston MA USA

2:17:42 (22) Clint Verran- 2 17 May 1975 13 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

2:18:13 (15) Wynston Alberts (CO) 14 Apr 1971 13 Mar 2005 Rome ITA

2:18:17 a (11) Ryan Shay (MI) 04 May 1979 18 Apr 2005 Boston MA USA

2:18:23 a ( 7) Mark Pilja (CA) 1980 13 Feb 2005 Austin TX USA

2:18:33 ( 9) Mbarak Hussein (NM) 04 Apr 1965 13 Mar 2005 Seoul KOR

10

USA Women

2:32:27 ( 1) Kelly Keane (MA) 25 Aug 1972 16 Jan 2005 Houston TX USA

2:34:43 (26) Turena Lane (GA) 20 Jul 1975 14 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

2:36:29 (30) Jill Boaz (CA) 21 Jan 1967 14 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

2:37:19 a ( 4) Mary Akor (CA) 1976 18 Jun 2005 Duluth MN USA

2:38:32 (35) Emily LeVan (ME) 15 Jan 1973 14 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

2:39:02 (36) Jennifer Crain (WI) 12 Feb 1968 14 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

2:43:14 a (12) Emily LeVan- 2 15 Jan 1973 18 Apr 2005 Boston MA USA

2:43:46 a (13) Caroline Annis (CA) 1980 18 Apr 2005 Boston MA USA

2:44:02 a (14) Carly Graytock (MA) 06 Oct 1978 18 Apr 2005 Boston MA USA

2:44:10 a ( 4) Katherine Blackett (CO) 26 May 1977 30 Jan 2005 Las Vegas NV USA

10

2:45:03 ( 3) Stacie Alboucrek (FL) 27 Sep 1967 30 Jan 2005 Miami FL USA

2:45:03 ( 3) Janet Robertz (MN) 03 Sep 1959 06 Feb 2005 Tampa FL USA

2:45:24 ( 2) Mary Akor- 2 1976 01 May 2005 Vancouver CAN

2:45:35 ( 1) Susan Loken (AZ) 28 Jul 1963 10 Apr 2005 New York NY USA

2:45:46 a ( 7) Katherine Koski (MN) 01 Mar 1973 18 Jun 2005 Duluth MN USA

2:46:53 a ( 1) Mary Akor- 3 1976 24 Apr 2005 Carmel CA USA

2:47:10 a ( 9) Jenna Boren (MN) 1976 18 Jun 2005 Duluth MN USA

2:48:59 ( 2) Janet Robertz- 2 03 Sep 1959 10 Apr 2005 New York NY USA

2:49:45 a (16) Christine Brough (NJ) 18 Apr 2005 Boston MA USA

2:49:51 ( 1) Christy Nielsen (IA) 20 May 1975 01 May 2005 Lincoln NE USA

20

Last Updated on 30 Aug 2005

Here is the 5k

Year 2005 Performances- 5000 meters Outdoor Track

USA Men

13:10.19 ( 8) Adam Goucher (OR) 18 Feb 1975 23 Jul 2005 Heusden BEL

13:11.77 ( 6) Tim Broe (MI) 20 Jun 1977 29 Jul 2005 Oslo NOR

13:12.76 ( 1) Tim Broe- 2 20 Jun 1977 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:13.32 ( 4) Abdihakim Abdirahman (AZ) 02 Dec 1978 22 Jul 2005 London ENG

13:13.75 ( 9) Abdihakim Abdirahman- 2 02 Dec 1978 29 Jul 2005 Oslo NOR

13:13.93 ( 6) Tim Broe- 3 20 Jun 1977 22 Jul 2005 London ENG

13:14.71 ( 1) Bernard Lagat (AZ) 12 Dec 1974 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

13:15.33 ( 2) Ian Dobson (CA) 06 Feb 1982 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:16.03 ( 3) Ryan Hall (CA) 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:20.57 ( 3) Jorge Torres (CO) 22 Aug 1980 29 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

10

13:20.71 (14) Mebrahtom Keflezighi (CA) 05 May 1975 29 Jul 2005 Oslo NOR

13:21.13 ( 1) Adam Goucher- 2 18 Feb 1975 10 Jun 2005 Victoria CAN

13:22.23 ( 1) Dathan Ritzenhein (CO) 30 Dec 1982 07 May 2005 Eugene OR USA

13:22.32 ( 1) Ryan Hall- 2 11 Jun 2005 Sacramento CA USA

13:22.54 ( 2) Ian Dobson- 2 06 Feb 1982 11 Jun 2005 Sacramento CA USA

13:23.20 ( 9) Ryan Hall- 3 22 Jul 2005 London ENG

13:25.00 ( 4) Jorge Torres- 2 22 Aug 1980 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:25.04 ( 5) Jonathon Riley (CA) 29 Dec 1978 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:25.36 ( 6) Matthew Tegenkamp (WI) 19 Jan 1982 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:25.75 (11) Alan Culpepper (CO) 15 Sep 1972 22 Jul 2005 London ENG

20

13:25.87 ( 7) Edward Moran (VA) 1981 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:27.16 (10) Ian Dobson- 3 06 Feb 1982 11 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

13:27.45 ( 5) Ian Dobson- 4 06 Feb 1982 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

13:27.65 ( 8) Adam Goucher- 3 18 Feb 1975 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

13:28.42 (13) Ian Dobson- 5 06 Feb 1982 22 Jul 2005 London ENG

USA Women

15:02.52 (15) Lauren Fleshman (CA) 16 Sep 1981 08 Jul 2005 Rome ITA

15:03.59 ( 5) Amy Rudolph (RI) 18 Sep 1973 26 Jul 2005 Stockholm SWE

15:10.96 ( 1) Shalane Flanagan (MA) 08 Jul 1981 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:12.39 ( 8) Jennifer Rhines (PA) 01 Jul 1974 26 Jul 2005 Stockholm SWE

15:15.63 ( 1) Lauren Fleshman- 2 16 Sep 1981 29 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

15:15.78 ( 8) Renee Metivier (CO) 25 Dec 1981 23 Jul 2005 Heusden BEL

15:16.80 ( 2) Lauren Fleshman- 3 16 Sep 1981 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:17.55 (10) Kara Goucher (OR) 1978 23 Jul 2005 Heusden BEL

15:18.92 ( 3) Amy Rudolph- 2 18 Sep 1973 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:20.59 ( 7) Shalane Flanagan- 2 08 Jul 1981 10 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

10

15:23.24 (10) Kathryn McGregor (MN) 02 Sep 1977 26 Jul 2005 Stockholm SWE

15:23.31 ( 4) Shayne Culpepper (GA) 03 Dec 1973 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:24.05 (11) Lauren Fleshman- 4 16 Sep 1981 26 Jul 2005 Stockholm SWE

15:24.13 ( 5) Carrie Tollefson (MN) 18 Jan 1977 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:24.74 ( 6) Sarah Bei (CA) 15 Apr 1983 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:24.88 ( 7) Amy Begley (IN) 11 Jan 1978 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:26.60 ( 2) Blake Russell (MA) 24 Jul 1975 29 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

15:32.05 ( 8) Sara Slattery (CO) 02 Oct 1981 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:32.05 (10) Lauren Fleshman- 5 16 Sep 1981 10 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

15:32.73 ( 9) Amy Rudolph- 3 18 Sep 1973 10 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

20

15:33.17 ( 9) Nicole Aish (CO) 08 Mar 1976 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:33.66 (23) Carrie Tollefson- 2 18 Jan 1977 08 Jul 2005 Rome ITA

15:34.01 ( 2) Amy Begley- 2 11 Jan 1978 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

15:40.56 (10) Renee Metivier- 2 25 Dec 1981 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

15:41.27 (11) Kara Goucher- 2 1978 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

Last Updated on 30 Aug 2005

Year 2005 Performances- 10,000 meters Outdoor Track

USA Men

27:33.47 ( 9) Abdihakim Abdirahman (AZ) 02 Dec 1978 29 May 2005 Hengelo NED

27:52.01 (13) Abdihakim Abdirahman- 2 02 Dec 1978 08 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

27:59.72 ( 5) Ian Dobson (CA) 06 Feb 1982 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

28:03.11 ( 6) Christopher Graff (CA) 05 Oct 1975 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

28:10.38 ( 1) Abdihakim Abdirahman- 3 02 Dec 1978 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

28:10.57 ( 2) Mebrahtom Keflezighi (CA) 05 May 1975 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

28:15.52 ( 1) Galen Rupp (OR) 08 May 1986 07 May 2005 Eugene OR USA

28:17.46 (10) Matthew Gonzales (NM) 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

28:23.75 ( 2) Galen Rupp- 2 08 May 1986 09 Jun 2005 Sacramento CA USA

28:31.39 ( 4) Matthew Lane (VA) 05 Sep 1977 25 Mar 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

10

28:33.31 ( 2) Brett Schoolmeester (CO) 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

28:34.65 ( 3) Matthew Downin (WI) 10 Feb 1977 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

28:35.86 ( 6) Rod Koborsi (DC) 04 Oct 1983 25 Mar 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

28:35.95 ( 4) James Carney (CA) 1978 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

28:37.09 (11) Matthew Downin- 2 10 Feb 1977 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

28:37.56 ( 5) Brett Schoolmeester- 2 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

28:37.64 ( 3) Jason Hubbard (CO) 20 Jan 1975 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

28:37.97 ( 6) Joe Driscoll (OR) 02 Nov 1979 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

28:38.72 ( 4) Patrick Gildea (TN) 1980 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

28:39.49 ( 7) Patrick Gildea- 2 1980 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

20

28:39.93 ( 5) Joshua Rohatinsky (UT) 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

28:40.52 (13) Joe Driscoll- 2 02 Nov 1979 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

28:41.19 (14) James Carney- 2 1978 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

28:41.32 ( 8) Christopher Graff- 2 05 Oct 1975 23 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

28:42.05 ( 4) Rod Koborsi- 2 04 Oct 1983 09 Jun 2005 Sacramento CA USA

USA Women

31:18.96 ( 1) Amy Rudolph (RI) 18 Sep 1973 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

31:21.20 (14) Kathryn McGregor (MN) 02 Sep 1977 06 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

31:21.92 ( 3) Elva Dryer (NM) 26 Sep 1971 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

31:25.94 ( 5) Kathryn McGregor- 2 02 Sep 1977 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

31:26.66 (16) Jennifer Rhines (PA) 01 Jul 1974 06 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

31:33.82 ( 1) Kathryn McGregor- 3 02 Sep 1977 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

31:35.25 ( 2) Blake Russell (MA) 24 Jul 1975 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

31:37.20 ( 3) Jennifer Rhines- 2 01 Jul 1974 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

31:39.47 ( 6) Jennifer Rhines- 3 01 Jul 1974 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

31:45.08 ( 4) Deena Kastor (CA) 14 Feb 1973 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

10

32:00.91 ( 5) Elva Dryer- 2 26 Sep 1971 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

32:07.00 (22) Blake Russell- 2 24 Jul 1975 06 Aug 2005 Helsinki FIN

32:11.08 ( 8) Blake Russell- 3 24 Jul 1975 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

32:15.70 ( 6) Laura O'Neill (CT) 29 Jul 1980 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

32:33.22 ( 1) Sylvia Mosqueda (CA) 08 Apr 1966 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

32:43.34 (11) Laura O'Neill- 2 29 Jul 1980 01 May 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

32:44.51 ( 1) Caroline Bierbaum (NY) 07 May 2005 New York NY USA

32:47.79 ( 1) Kimberly Fitchen (CA) 03 Sep 1968 25 Mar 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

32:51.20 ( 2) Lindsey Scherf (MA) 18 Sep 1986 07 May 2005 New York NY USA

33:02.13 ( 2) Anne Bersagel (NC) 1982 25 Mar 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

20

33:02.21 ( 1) Sara Slattery (CO) 02 Oct 1981 09 Jun 2005 Sacramento CA USA

33:03.37 ( 2) Caroline Bierbaum- 2 09 Jun 2005 Sacramento CA USA

33:05.28 ( 3) Sabrina Monro (WA) 1979 25 Mar 2005 Palo Alto CA USA

33:05.71 ( 3) Jennifer Crain (WI) 12 Feb 1968 15 Apr 2005 Walnut CA USA

33:07.43 ( 7) Jennifer Crain- 2 12 Feb 1968 24 Jun 2005 Carson CA USA

Last Updated on 30 Aug 2005

Chill out dude. Who cares what Peter Julian said in some off hand comment in some random article. Don't get your panties in a wad.

When did the phrase "jump the shark" jump the shark?

I eat at Arnolds wrote:

When did the phrase "jump the shark" jump the shark?

'bout a year ago.

About the same time as Starbucks jumped the shark. About the same time as your average high schooler realized that PRE was never a role model. About the same time as Lance Armstrong had clean blood. The list is endless. At 30 years old, Boulder was never the mecca during my running days. Although kids that are under 20 or guys that are over 40 believe that it is. The only people in the 21-40 year old age group that believe that Boulder is a running mecca are the guys that are searching for something from outside of themselves, when they should be searching within themselves.

Hard to believe that so many are so opinionated about something so trivial.

Good job. Very accurate. What about magnets for wristbands? Bee Pollen? DMSO?

what does jump the shark mean?

I moved from a good running situation out to Boulder in search of the Holy Grail. I had what I thought was a great job set up and an affordable place to live. It was a disaster. Probably just me. I am happy back home in Chicago.

Actually the phrase officially Jumped the Shark when it was brought up on the Happy Days Reunion show. I'm not sure the exact date that this show aired, but I believe it was early 2005.

hmmmmm wrote:

what does jump the shark mean?

Boulder has always been overated. This event will be a disaster, but the folks from Boulder will tell you that it is the greatest thing since sliced cheese. They will probably run the meet on some pancake flat course and then try to convince all of us that is a good thing. There will be a couple hundred spectators (the same as every other host city) and they will tell you that there was a couple thousand. Boulder is very good at embellishing things.

Yes, absolutely agree, Boulder really have only mythological benefit. Stay where you are and urge everyone who ask about Boulder and Colorado to do same, especially if just another everyday male 15:00+ 5K runner with delusion of grandeur.

Who cares? The team will finish 9th at the Worlds anyway.

Chief Niwot wrote:

Yes, absolutely agree, Boulder really have only mythological benefit. Stay where you are and urge everyone who ask about Boulder and Colorado to do same, especially if just another everyday male 15:00+ 5K runner with delusion of grandeur.

It is usually some guy that is running 120 miles a week and thinks that he is doing everything it takes to be World Class. He thinks that altitude will be just what he needs to put him on the map. Instead just stay wherever you are and run 160 miles a week. I never realized until the OVERATED GUY put the lists up how few americans are having any success in the marathon that are living in Colorado. The list is shameful.