Wow Hobie call, guy from quote of the day 7/10/12, is beyond ignorant

Kip Litton will break 2 hours before this guy does haha!

Downhill racing and training with 40 lb weights on? I give this guy's knees 6 more months.

Hmm, cave-dweller makes outrageous claims about his marathoning ability? Doesn't sound familiar at all.

hobbyjogger3902939 wrote:

StevieD wrote:

I'm willing to give this guy $10,000 with a few conditions. Off the top of my head, I'd have to say that if he does not go under 2:00 in 24 months (as he stated) then he will pay me back $10,000. If he does break 2:00 then I'll get a % (yet undetermined, but ~60-70%) of his income derived from breaking the record (purses, book deals, appearance fees, etc.).

This is quite the generous offer. In summary, if he can't do it, he pays you back 100%. If he can do it, he pays you back something like 20000%. If your day job doesn't include being a loan shark, you've missed your calling! (Of course in reality, he can't do it, and you'd never see a penny of your money back).

I guess you never been involved in venture capitalism. I'm assuming that I'd never see the $10K back from a guy installing ACs, so I'm assuming all the risk. He says he'd never be able to do it without financial assistance - which I can provide. If he can't do it, he gets two years of financial assistance. If he does it, he gets two years financial assistance plus 30-40% of income derived from future earnings (which is very generous if it was a VC deal).

He is actually getting a great deal out of it either way.

gramthlete wrote:

He has an intuition about a result, a method, and the will to test it on himself, underlining in the process that he doesn't consider himself to be better than anyone else.

All the posters here do is call him stupid and ignore the proposals of his method.

I therefore submit that you all collectively reek of douchebaggery.

Nice try Hobie.

ttc wrote:

You're twisting confidence to arrogance, and are the only one mentioning disrespect to other runners. Not him. He's excited over a training method and is asking for sponsorship- period. Anything else is YOUR add-on.

You're failing to untangle confidence with ignorance. He has a training method, but it's unproven and justifiably unattainable by the best of the best in the sport. He needs to start running more records and less of his mouth.

By the way, I'm surprised not more people are discussing this: there is absolutely no chance that he ran a 4:40 on a flat track with a 40 pound weight vest on. NO CHANCE AT ALL. I could believe that he did it on a steep decline, but there is zero chance that he did it on a flat surface.

Nick Symmonds ran a mile in 4:39 carrying Paris Hilton, and she weighs maybe 80 pounds (including solid gold thong), so Hobie Call can put that in his pipe and smoke it! Symmonds is sure to break 2:00 when he gets around to running a marathon. Damn.

By the way, his 5k PR pace is 4:34 (probably a downhill road course also if I had to guess), so I guess he's just going to run a marathon at 5k pace after weight-vest training. I wish I could run a marathon at my 5k pace...

So how is his training method different from a 40 pound overweight runner losing pounds and running faster miles?



What would you say to people who say that your similar claims concerning the marathon show either ignorance of or disrespect to the thousands of runners who have run faster than you in the marathon, yet make no claims to be able to break 2:00?

HC: You find a sub-2:05 marathoner or a sub-3:50 miler and put a 40-pound vest on them. If they can break 4:40 in a mile then I will declare myself ignorant. You find anyone who can lunge even half a mile with a 40-pound vest on in the pace that I did the full mile, and if they call my claim arrogant, then I will openly agree with them.

I know this guy can not run 4:40 with 40lbs, neither can I. But I can do the above and I meet his qualifications. I am anyone, I can lunge a half-mile with a 40-pound vest faster than 17:00 minutes (his mile was 34:01), I have a 40-pound vest and I'm willing to do it so I get him to admit arrogance. What kind of proof do you all need? I believe that my camera will record for that long but where can I post a 18 minute video?

This guy blew it with the RW interview. Now any schmoe with the financial means is going to take a couple of years off, follow his training guidelines, and break 2 hours before he does.

Dolt.

My racing weight 5 years ago was 140 lbs, I'm now 180 lbs. I'm ready for the challenge.

Yes, I am arrogant for stating that someone who has never come close achieving a world class marathon on a legit course, who can't even beat the best women in the world, will, if allowed to train full time coaching himself, suddenly transform himself into the greatest, BY FAR, runner of all time (because if he can run a 1:59 marathon, a guy with "sub 4:00 speed" [during a training run!] would easily break all existing WR's from 5k-marathon.). Yes, how arrogant of me!! Are you on insane???

Okay, I will admit the comment "he's nothing" is bit exaggerated, or at least not explained clearly (see, unlike this clown, I can admit if I exaggerated something). He's a very good runner and athlete. Happy? What I meant is: in the context of the level he is talking about, sub 2:00 hour marathon land, he is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Compared to that level, compared to all time great world class runners, he isn't even the most obscure footnote. He's nothing in THAT CONTEXT. And THAT is the exactly the context he is trying to place himself in by claiming to be able to break 2:00 in the marathon. Comprende??

And if someone bashing a clearly delusional, arrogant, out-for-attention nobody (in the world of world class distance running), on an anonymous message board no less, "fascinates you," then you need to get out more.

lhbhh wrote:

My racing weight 5 years ago was 140 lbs, I'm now 180 lbs. I'm ready for the challenge.

How much do you need to cover your living expenses? I'll have my people call your people!

What are your PR's?

You know what? Good point. That's rudely arrogant.

So you're saying he's got a chance?

I'm willing to put up 10000 also.

All of you are missing the point. Watch the first part of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMD7EzkRcMQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Who's his sponsor? Look at the interview, specifically:

"I can break two hours. I have the knowledge. I have the discipline. I have the right attitude. All I need is the opportunity to train full time for one and a half to two years."

So who is he asking for the money?