Green Eggs & Ham wrote: She also seems like someone who has built their life on this particular fight and is unwilling to let it go. Now that a conclusion seems to be near, she is maintaining the fight because it has become ingrained in her identity. The fight has become more important than the outcome.
Well put. ^
And apparently you haven't read about Lance not always sharing his Tour winnings as he claimed over and over. Keep trying.
llort_vbo wrote:
They would be a million times more credible to me if the confession happened while Lance was still their meal ticket. It's interesting that they're forthcoming only after a serious falling out.
Are you joking? Trolling? Betsy Andreu has been "forthcoming" from the moment she was subpoenaed. She has never wavered and did so when Lance was at his peak popularity. Very few had the guts to ever speak the truth about Lance during that time.
Beaner in an El Camino wrote:
Citizen Runner wrote: In the SCA trial while under oath, Lance specifically denied having admitted PED use during that that conversation. He can't say what she wants him to say without admitting perjury.That doesn't matter. The statute of limitations has expired with regard to the "trial" you mention.
As far as I'm aware, the sworn testimony was in a deposition, not a trial. In any event, no competent attorney would agree with your statement about "[t]he statute of limitations."
There are many different statutes of limitation -- criminal, civil, state, federal -- that could apply under these circumstances. These statutes can have very different limitations periods and -- much more importantly -- very different rules for when the clock starts to run (accrual), what circumstances can temporarily stop the clock (tolling), and when the clock can be reset (revival). Different jurisdictions also have different rules about the circumstances that can justify reopening lawsuits and settlements. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Armstrong's answers were calculated to avoid legal consequences of contradicting his own sworn statements on this particular issue.
I'm pretty sure that I, too, would be really upset if I were in Betsy Andreu's position.
You and the rest of the LA fanclub are back at it.
Do you fools have any idea what he did to this woman, her husband and a lot of other people?
Would you feel any better about LA's fake apology and his complete lack of remorse?
Get a life you bunch of losers. She has every right to be livid, and unforgiving. She has every right to laugh i the faces of all you fanboys. He can never make up for what she lost in life. And I can assure you he wont give her a penny in compensation.
Enjoy this article. Maybe then you will get it, but I doubt it.
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8852974/lance-armstrong-history-lying
Beaner, now tell us about Lance Armstrong. What kind of person does he seem like to you?
And BASED ON YOUR REPEATED USE OF THE WORD "bitch," you seem to have issues with women who are assertive and don't back down from insecure men. You seem like the kind of guy who doesn't do very well with a woman who doesn't know her place in your pecking order (men > women).
Carry on.
I've not seen Betsy before but just now watched a video of her on the Cooper show.
She expresses herself quite well and looks fine to me.
Beaner in an El Camino wrote:
I am neither part of the LA fanclud nor "back at" anything.
YOU (and a number of others) need to improve your reading comprehension skills. As I've noted numerous times within this thread, this isn't about Betsy and Lance. It is ONLY about my general impression that Betsy seems like a generally bitchy person. She seems that way now, and she was probably that way before she ever met Lance Armstrong.
That is it.
If that is the way you feel, why do you feel the need to control this conversation. Are you so insecure in your opinion that you need a bunch of anonymous folks on the internet approve of it.
People disagree with you and are suggesting that you are using a technique to dismiss her point of view. I agree.
People also suggest your attitude towards her reflects a misogynistic worldview. I agree.
Betsy on a good morning show, even more well spoken.
Beaner in an El Camino wrote: I am an "attention whore."
The use of the racial slur "beaner" in your nick is being reported. Some was using the slur "honkey" had their comments deleted. Your comments need to be terminated.
Rude Dude wrote: The use of the racial slur "beaner" in your nick is being reported. Some was using the slur "honkey" had their comments deleted. Your comments need to be terminated.
Umm...Beaner is my nickname because, as a little leaguer, I had an unfortunate fault of hitting batters on the rare occasions I got to pitch. And I own an El Camino that has become sort of a joke amongst my friends because I've had it for year and never gotten around to restoring it.
What kind of person are you and where the hell is your head?
Y'all win. I can't keep up with your collective inability to stay on topic, not to mention your moronic misinterpretations of almost everything I post. Later.
Beaner is a racial slur? Who is it directed against and what is its origin?
So as I understand it. Betsy husband was a doper himself. Suddenly, when he's on the downside of his career he "sees the light" and decides "not to dope" convenient at the same time he get kick off the team. Sounds to me like his conversion was a convenient excuse to look like it had nothing to do with his diminishing skills.
So Besty takes this "conversion" to hear to go after Lance.
Honestly, honor among dopers.
1. A derogatory term used to describe a person whose skin tone is crisp and brown from exposure to the sun. Originally used for Mexicans only but ignorance allows it be used for just about any person from latin america.
After watching about the first 10 seconds of the front page video I tend to agree. I couldn't stand to watch any more.
Tor wrote:
The media is showing great respect for Betsy, someone that never swayed from the truth. Not enough of that integrity in the world these days. None of us can even begin to imagine the sh*t storm her and her husband endured over the years by not staying on the Lance ship.
ha ha ....hilarious.
"Never swayed from the truth" ?? Oh, really???
She knew her husband was a cheater for YEARS and never told anyone, and I am sure people asked. Is that "never swaying from the truth" ?? Not quite. And she had told her husband she wouldn't marry him if he was using EPO, and he lied to her anyway, and said he wasn't, and then continued to use after they got married. But she stuck by him!! good ol' honest Betsy, sticking by her PED man. But it was all Lance's fault.....sure.
Positive Split Guy wrote:
I can say that I don't like the fact that so many ex-druggies can keep involved in the highest levels of the sport and become all holier than thou once they confess.
EXACTLY. Lovable "Big" George Hincapie, and good ol' Frankie A., and of course Vaughters, and oh yeah David Millar are just good guys who got caught up in a bad game and who came clean and are now trying to clean up the sport.
Bull...SHIT. If Lance is the devil, as everyone seems to think, they're just as evil as he. He was just a better ride and better at not getting caught than all of them.
str8 klownin wrote:
She just seems like a normal person who had difficulty coping with her friend turning on her, bullying her and destroying her and her husband's life.
What?!?
"destroying her and her husband's life" ??
Lance helped Frankie big time simply by winning the yellow jersey twice with Frankie on the team. That alone put Frankie on the map and made him wealthier. If Lance is not on the team, no one ever remembers Frankie Andreu.
Frankie then retires on his own, and Lance and co make him an assistant director of the team. How has Frankie's life been destroyed so far because of Lance Armstrong??
Betsy then rats out Lance to people behind his and Frankie's back (this is BEFORE deposition, and how LA confidential author finds out about hospital incident), but doesn't rat out Frankie of course. At THAT point, yes, Lance forces Frankie off the team management. Frankie has worked as cycling announcer for years, and was a team director at one point, resigning on his own. You act like the guy was completely blackballed out of cycling.
And what horrible things happened to Betsy because of Lance? She testified he used drugs, he denied it and said she was crazy. Some people believed Lance, some Betsy. Most people have no idea who she is. She is acting like she survived the holocaust or something.