What are the chances Baxter and Cain pick Oregon in 2 years

Sorry Princeton guys...Mary Cain is going to Yale!...see video: she's wearing a Yale sweatshirt

http://www.milesplit.com/videos/?id=25623

To Ivy Dreams:

It is ridiculous to call Banfich, Higginson or Cummings anything close to "legends". How many NCAA titles/records were won between all 3?

Don't get me wrong, Princeton is a great program with a great history but it is no place for someone as talented and as motivated as Cain. She doesn't want the academic workload of Princeton. She is basically already living a professional athlete lifestyle. Her goals in life are centered around athletics, not academics. I'm sure she will certainly take her academics very seriously in college. But she could get a perfectly fine if not equally as good undergraduate education studying at a place like Oregon getting coached by AlSal, having access to the best facilities in the world, training with the best women in the USA. Why would she go to Princeton when it would create the same problem she had with her high school team...No training partners! There is not one girl on that team that would be able to consistently train with Cain. She might be a 4:05/8:50 girl by the time she gets there.

I don't know anything about Peter Farrell but would he really be the one to mold her into an Olympic athlete?? It seems that he might not even be the best coach in the Ivy League( Mark Coogan)

The should go to Lane Community College and run for Mike Blackmore

If Cain continues her upward trend of improvement over the next year, there is really no point for her to go race in the NCAA system. What's the point of running in the collegiate system if you're already better than everyone else? There really is no reason. She can take classes at Portland State and train at the Nike campus under Salazar. It's been done before with other athletes (i.e. Jager under Schumacher).

not so fast... wrote:

... Princeton is a great program with a great history but it is no place for someone as talented and as motivated as Cain. She doesn't want the academic workload of Princeton. She is basically already living a professional athlete lifestyle. Her goals in life are centered around athletics, not academics.

My guess is Mary Cain is heavily influenced by the advice of her parents. They did not get to where they are because they are clueless. Therefor, they will be aware of the following:

1) All T&F athletes are one injury away from the end of their success. This is especially a risk for young athletes whose bodies have been exposed to way more wear and tear before they are out of high school than their bodies are designed for.

2) A top flight education is the singularly most important criterion for life success, the more prestigious the university, the better.

3) "Professional" T&F athletics is an oxymoron. Athletes in this highly insular, poorly paid and way under appreciated lifestyle eke out a meager existence.

4) Intelligent student athletes, even at Cain's level, choose a balanced approach to their athleticism that nurtures their upward athletic development, while developing their academic footing at the same time.

In light of these factors, Cain is most likely being guided by her parents to go to a Princeton or a Stanford as the next step in her athletic, and overall, development.

Between Stanford and Princeton, Princeton is the likely choice because of its number one academic ranking in the country, over Stanford and every other school for that matter, storied tradition of success in women's distance track at the HEPS, NCAA and, indeed, Olympic levels, overall student/athlete culture and conservative bent, and proximity to the Cain home base in Westchester. Also, the Stanford coaching situation is in chaos because of the turnover in the top staff over the last 12 months.

My guess is they are also considering getting her into Princeton, then taking a GAP year to focus exclusively on her track development to see how it evolves.

Thoughts?

Two words here:

Julia Stamps

That can happen to anyone--but she has her Stanford education.

But if Cain is to be coached by Salazar by email as she is now, she could go to MIT, or she could go to Caltech (great climate to train in for MD, very nice mondo track on-campus).

pac12fan wrote:

? i'm liking Oregon chances with both Track Town U S A BABY. Hopefully they both watch the Oregon women win the indoor and outdoor National Championships this year and next.

Will she be around in 2 years? She's awful young to be training as she does.

Cain't wrote:

pac12fan wrote:

? i'm liking Oregon chances with both Track Town U S A BABY. Hopefully they both watch the Oregon women win the indoor and outdoor National Championships this year and next.

Will she be around in 2 years? She's awful young to be training as she does.

Precisely my point in earlier posts. She is being pushed way to hard at a point when her body needs to be nurtured for the longer term. The landscape is littered with tons of hot high school prospects whose bodies came apart at the seams for one reason or another. Anyone ever hear of Lukas Verzbicas?

This is why my guess is a shrewd Dr. Cain will advise Mary to go to a Princeton.

The Cain's are trying to see her potential NOW. Running nearly every week against strong competitors. If it pans out, she turns pro, gets on the running shoe gravy train, goes to the Olympics in 2016 and then goes to college without regard for the NCAAs. If it doesn't pan out she'll take a full ride at a good running school. Not an Ivy obviously - she won't be able to get financial aid (one might guess Stanford but I doubt if she even has a short list yet). Only problem with this program is it doesn't seem to be in sync with the vaunted "long term" development touted by Salazar.

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gyugybhbv wrote:

If they were smart they would both go to Colorado and run 14:40 before they graduate.

Oregon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Colorado

Alanson wrote:

The Cain's are trying to see her potential NOW. Running nearly every week against strong competitors. If it pans out, she turns pro, gets on the running shoe gravy train, goes to the Olympics in 2016 and then goes to college without regard for the NCAAs. If it doesn't pan out she'll take a full ride at a good running school. Not an Ivy obviously - she won't be able to get financial aid (one might guess Stanford but I doubt if she even has a short list yet). Only problem with this program is it doesn't seem to be in sync with the vaunted "long term" development touted by Salazar.

Just saw Cain set the new HS mile. It is now more apparent than ever, she belongs in a top academic / athletic culture like Princeton where her athletic development can be optimized while her academic foundation is assured. Go Cain!

I am sitting next to a couple that just had an incredibly awkward conversation that personally killed me to hear it. Real life moment, goes like this:

Guy: You, uh, you should come to my office to see it there's not much to see, but uh, yeah you should come

Girl: (silence)

Guy: Uh, you know, uh we could get lunch

Girl: Yeah, that's never going to happen

Guy: (silence)

one full minute passes...

She checks her phone. He crumples his starbucks cup.

Guy: you don't eat lunch?

Girl: no

For some reason that was really hard to watch.

I'd like that :)

That's weird, I thought I already responded to this comment.

I think that sounds nice

Didn't rojo go to Princeton? He doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the batch.

to all the princeton haters:

two words.

don cabral.

that is all. carry on