Personally I think this guy can do it. He has a great plan, plenty of talent, and a great work ethic. Throw in a level of toughness that has no equal and it is easy to see why I think this guy will break 2 hours.
Personally I think this guy can do it. He has a great plan, plenty of talent, and a great work ethic. Throw in a level of toughness that has no equal and it is easy to see why I think this guy will break 2 hours.
If I was rich, I would sponsor the guy for a year, and allow him to earn the other year with progress. Unconventional yes, possible.....probably not. But it would be really interesting to see him try.
You have to give him credit for being possibly the fastest guy in the world with a weight vest.
If everyone that posts on the LetsRun.com Message Boards gave this guy $5 towards his living expenses, he'd have about $170.
Runner's world does the guy an injustice by noting how much elevation drop all of his pr's had.....without mentioning that they were all run at altitude. I bet if you take the altitude and elevation drop into account his pr's = close to a sea level flat pr.
park city wrote:
Runner's world does the guy an injustice by noting how much elevation drop all of his pr's had.....without mentioning that they were all run at altitude. I bet if you take the altitude and elevation drop into account his pr's = close to a sea level flat pr.
Post his PRs with the elevations of the races
Fiziks wrote:
Take him up to a little over 138,000 feet in an airplane and drop him ... he'll break 2 hours.
That would be called Ryan Halling.
I love his enthusiasm and drive. What he's doing is better than loafing on a couch. Too bad many bash when someone states their ambitions. Even if they're way outside the box.
Preakness wrote:
Can he break 2 for the full thon? Maybe he can, maybe he can't. Let's not knock him before he tries. Remember, people said bannister couldn't break 4 in the mile (full).
And yet Bannister didn't need anyone to pay his expenses in order to pull it off-- in fact, he did so in the middle of intensive training as a medical resident.
Nothing wrong with asking for sponsorship.
ttc wrote:
I love his enthusiasm and drive. What he's doing is better than loafing on a couch. Too bad many bash when someone states their ambitions. Even if they're way outside the box.
only idiots like you would defend him.
He is being arrogant, moronic, and delusional. If he is joking, ok, Hobie, good one, you got us, ha ha. But he's not. So it's not funny, it's offensive that he has such an inflated view of his ability based on nothing. If he didn't run on downhill courses, he wouldn't be under 14:00, 30:00, or 2:20, i.e., he'd be a dime a dozen. I know guys that ran in the low 2:20's over 50 YEARS AGO. He's nothing. Yet he says: oh, I am soooo much smarter about training than everyone else, and willing to work so hard, I will achieve the SINGLE GREATEST RUNNING (possibly athletic) PERFORMANCE IN HISTORY. What an ass.
Yes, he DESERVES TO BE BASHED FOR BEING AN IDIOT.
Fiziks wrote:
Take him up to a little over 138,000 feet in an airplane and drop him ... he'll break 2 hours.
After reading the whole interview I realize I mis-spoke ...
First we need to drop him from 5280 feet with a 40 pound pack. Then take him up to 16,404 feet ...
Dude whats wrong with dean k he's a great runner even though the media over shouts his glory thats not his fault..but yea the call guys a douche
Having self-confidence is not arrogance, unless he's demeaning to others. And sorry, but you can't twist around his confidence as it implying as such. Maybe he is wrong on the training. But he's not coaching anyone, but himself. I wish more runners put their ideas out there. Even if he comes up short, maybe he finds out something from that unique training that helps everyone.
ttc wrote:
Having self-confidence is not arrogance, unless he's demeaning to others. And sorry, but you can't twist around his confidence as it implying as such. Maybe he is wrong on the training. But he's not coaching anyone, but himself. I wish more runners put their ideas out there. Even if he comes up short, maybe he finds out something from that unique training that helps everyone.
When he claims he can do something in 18 months (run a 2:00 hour marathon) that hundreds of people have devoted their entire lives to and come up well short, I think it's pretty demeaning to those athletes. And if he actually was going to try these amazing ideas and do the training, that would be one thing. But he won't, because no one is going to pay his expenses. So instead he gets to sit on his high horse and pretend to be this amazing untapped resource who has the world's best performance at his fingertips, if only he could be bother to train for it. (But he can't, because he's too busy training for Spartan races). And then he gets pissed when asked some reasonable questions about it. He's a chode.
Couldn't help but laugh (at myself really) reading the quote of the day on front page. I can appreciate his spirit, though.
I did some quick calculations, assuming a height of 5'10", body weight of 140 lbs and done at sea level with no appreciable wind.
4:34 mile at 140 lbs = 389 watts
4:34 mile at 180 lbs = 487 watts
487 watts at 140 lbs = 3:48 mile (mile in ~ 3:48)
4:34 mile at 162 lbs = 443 watts
443 watts at 140 lbs = 4:06 mile (5K in ~ 12:43)
4:34 mile at 154 lbs = 423 watts
423 watts at 140 lbs = 4:15 mile (10K in ~ 26:24)
4:34 mile at 146 lbs = 403 watts
403 watts at 140 lbs = 4:26 mile (half in ~ 58:04)
Marathon in 2:16:00 (no net loss or gain) 140 lbs = 335 watts.
Marathon in 2:00:00 (no net loss or gain) 140 lbs = 388 watts.
If y'all get $60K together to donate to someone with talent who is a bit eccentric, I would like to formally apply for it as well.
ttc wrote:
Having self-confidence is not arrogance, unless he's demeaning to others. And sorry, but you can't twist around his confidence as it implying as such. Maybe he is wrong on the training. But he's not coaching anyone, but himself. I wish more runners put their ideas out there. Even if he comes up short, maybe he finds out something from that unique training that helps everyone.
Why doesn't he just do it and shut up about it? There are all sorts of guys out there running over 100 mpw with part or full time jobs. Why can't he? Sure it would be nice to have a sponsor but you have to earn one. If he was to quietly train and bust out with a fast marathon, say a sub 2:05, he would get a sponsor.
Paula Cliffebar wrote:
only idiots like you would defend him.
He is being arrogant, moronic, and delusional. If he is joking, ok, Hobie, good one, you got us, ha ha. But he's not. So it's not funny, it's offensive that he has such an inflated view of his ability based on nothing. If he didn't run on downhill courses, he wouldn't be under 14:00, 30:00, or 2:20, i.e., he'd be a dime a dozen. I know guys that ran in the low 2:20's over 50 YEARS AGO. He's nothing. Yet he says: oh, I am soooo much smarter about training than everyone else, and willing to work so hard, I will achieve the SINGLE GREATEST RUNNING (possibly athletic) PERFORMANCE IN HISTORY. What an ass.
Yes, he DESERVES TO BE BASHED FOR BEING AN IDIOT.
The ironic part is that most of the terms you use in your post apply to you more than him.
Arrogant - to presume to tell others what they can or can't achieve.
Arrogant - to "know" he wouldn't be under 2:20, etc..
He's nothing - look in the mirror... just because you knew good runners 50 years ago does not make you sh*t... and I assume you weren't as good or you would've mentioned that
What an ass - no need to go on.
For the record, I think his claims are far-fetched. But your level of animosity towards him is fascinating.
Sp!kes wrote:
Personally I think this guy can do it. He has a great plan, plenty of talent, and a great work ethic. Throw in a level of toughness that has no equal and it is easy to see why I think this guy will break 2 hours.
Know you're trolling but level of toughness? The guy does downhill races all the time and dropped out of the 2008 Olypics Trials.
You're twisting confidence to arrogance, and are the only one mentioning disrespect to other runners. Not him. He's excited over a training method and is asking for sponsorship- period. Anything else is YOUR add-on.
StevieD wrote:
I'm willing to give this guy $10,000 with a few conditions. Off the top of my head, I'd have to say that if he does not go under 2:00 in 24 months (as he stated) then he will pay me back $10,000. If he does break 2:00 then I'll get a % (yet undetermined, but ~60-70%) of his income derived from breaking the record (purses, book deals, appearance fees, etc.).
This is quite the generous offer. In summary, if he can't do it, he pays you back 100%. If he can do it, he pays you back something like 20000%. If your day job doesn't include being a loan shark, you've missed your calling! (Of course in reality, he can't do it, and you'd never see a penny of your money back).