fast action jackson wrote:
...whether I am... ...looking up the results on my computer, I know I contributed, as a teammate...
wat.
fast action jackson wrote:
...whether I am... ...looking up the results on my computer, I know I contributed, as a teammate...
wat.
fast action jackson wrote:
See this is a prime example of why you eastcoasters dont get it... why I say "we" is because I know what it is like to be part of a team... whether I am winning the race, cheering on the sidelines, or looking up the results on my computer, I know I contributed, as a teammate. We push each other hard in practice, and keep each other accountable... so yes I can saw we, because I we present in every race and event on that day...
and secondly, if you think times matter so much, which I know you and all eastcoasters do, and you think its funny to make fun of someones PR, let's race... and we can even do it Eastcoast style... we can time trial events separately, from across the country, and the person that ends up with the fastest PR in the end, wins... because that's how nationals should be run, right?????
lol. you are hilarious. also, your second paragraph is the biggest straw man I have ever seen.
Wartburg women dominate the field....hell they would beat most D1 schools. Another small midwestern nobody school. Where the hell is Waverly Iowa?
Wartburg has been getting it done for awhile now. Starting with Missy Butry and Josh Moen.
1 Bowdoin 9:59.67$ 10
2 Wis.-Stevens Point 9:59.70$ 8
3 Bates 10:00.37$ 6
4 Middlebury 10:01.38$ 5
5 MIT 10:02.41$ 4
6 Wis.-La Crosse 10:03.52$ 3
7 North Central (Ill.) 10:03.79$ 2
8 Tufts 10:18.59# 1
9 Elizabethtown 10:27.25#
10 Wabash 10:42.95
not sure what this means... are you trying to say that the eastcoast won the least important event... a relay... or, i suppose, your point could be they came together as a team, either way, let me let you in on a little secrect. midwesterners train through indoors, indoors is a silly concept, that didnt even have a national meet until the late 80s... so yes, you did it in indoors... but no one, other than the n00bs on the east coast, emphasize it,
5/10. You got some people going at first, but you have no innovation and don't try and use stats or anything. entertaining though.
This thread sucks. You East Coast/Midwest fanboys need to stop talking. Here's something I would like to talk about. Sathre and Berube seemed to be on a whole 'nother levo after xc, but during track they fell back into the mix with the other top guys. Did this happen because the other guys(Nelson, Monson, Schmidt, Schilit) upped their games to keep up? Did Berube and Sathre just drop off a bit/have training difficulties at various points in the season? Or do you chalk it up to some people being better at track than XC and vise versa.
OR we could get back on point and address the question, how does a fresh Schilit lose so badly to a tired Nelson... well just take a look at the type of races they ran all year, and yuo'll see why, Nelson continually won meets, week after week, and Schilit... get pulled along to fast times... so he doesn't know how to win... i mean, he has the faster 1500 time, he should be ready to go, right? but wait he ran that getting pulled along where Nelson had to muscle it out... This mentality is why the midwest will continue to dominate and win nearly every race, and the east coasters will continue to end up in the middle of the pack getting pulled along... look at indoors, look at last year, all the guys that won, were midwest, and didnt have the fastest time going in
fast action jackson wrote:
OR we could get back on point and address the question, how does a fresh Schilit lose so badly to a tired Nelson... well just take a look at the type of races they ran all year, and yuo'll see why, Nelson continually won meets, week after week, and Schilit... get pulled along to fast times... so he doesn't know how to win... i mean, he has the faster 1500 time, he should be ready to go, right? but wait he ran that getting pulled along where Nelson had to muscle it out... This mentality is why the midwest will continue to dominate and win nearly every race, and the east coasters will continue to end up in the middle of the pack getting pulled along... look at indoors, look at last year, all the guys that won, were midwest, and didnt have the fastest time going in
Seriously will you just go away? your points don't even make sense.
I don't think he's very far off. The MW cleans up at Nationals because a lot of the New England schools simply don't care about team titles.
..that and they can't possibly compete with the ridiculous depth that the WIAC schools have.
Kone is a beast. Cunningham is ridiculous. You guys give no love to sprinters and those two alongside the Wartburg 4x4 were absurd.
Schilit was in contention for the win at Princeton when he ran 13:57. He won his heat at Swarthmore when he ran 3:47, I believe. He won all the events he entered at conferences. He won his season opening 1500m. He never left the PA/NJ area for any of his races.
You are trolling, but at least try to do it well. Schilit lost to a faster 5000m runner who ran a great race and Jordan made the mistake of trying to blow the race open from the gun.
Kudos to all athletes who made nationals, regardless of region.
fast action jackson wrote:
OR we could get back on point and address the question, how does a fresh Schilit lose so badly to a tired Nelson... well just take a look at the type of races they ran all year, and yuo'll see why, Nelson continually won meets, week after week, and Schilit... get pulled along to fast times... so he doesn't know how to win... i mean, he has the faster 1500 time, he should be ready to go, right? but wait he ran that getting pulled along where Nelson had to muscle it out... This mentality is why the midwest will continue to dominate and win nearly every race, and the east coasters will continue to end up in the middle of the pack getting pulled along... look at indoors, look at last year, all the guys that won, were midwest, and didnt have the fastest time going in
Factually incorrect--Schilit did a lot of the work in his 5k pr, and if you've ever seen him race you know how comfortable, no, happy he is frontrunning.
The reasons he lost: a.) Nelson is faster. Seriously. You're trying to figure out why a 13:59 guy with a best nationals finish of 7th lost to a 13:57 guy with a national championship? b.) Schilit made a questionable but probably correct tactical decision to take it from the gun in the hopes of running Nelson out of the race, confident that he could beat everyone in the field but Nelson. Nelson happens to be a beast and, like you phrase it, 'got pulled along.'
Schilit wins this race in almost every year it's been contested. Unfortunately for him he came up against one of the absolute best ever in d3. Fortunately for him he's got another year, and I wouldn't be surprised if he qualifies to USATF for the world's trials or breaks 3:42 or goes under 29:00 next year. Dude has stones.
Schilit didn't get pulled along to his 1500 time. He won his heat while leading over 1000 meters of the race. The only race in which he was really "pulled along" was the Princeton 10k in which he finished ninth, but Tim Nelson also got "pulled along" in the Mt. SAC relays 5k in which he finished sixth, so your argument is invalid. The only real difference between Schilit and Nelson outside of Schilit having better 800 and 1500 times and Nelson having a better 10k time is that Schilit raced a lot more than Nelson, with Schilit racing in 7 meets compared to Nelson's 4 meets.