Xfitguy wrote:
running math wrote:Not at all. My weight fluctuates depending on how much I run.
Are you suggesting that one CANNOT lose weight with just running alone? Surely not.
Yes and as soon as you stop you will gain weight because you don't have muscles that work while you're idling.
Which demonstrates perfectly that running is a good tool for weight loss.
Xfitguy wrote:
SumguyI wrote:Weight is not a function of biology, it is of physics. Ittakes way more calories to run than lift. There is your center of mass moving the distance of the run and then all of the internal movements. You would have to literally be lifting weights for hours, no rest, to replicate that.
Weight is basically a calories in vs calories out equation.
Ok then why are 80% of runners at your typical 5k event overweight?
Why are 80% of the people lifting weight in your gym overweight?
Oh yea...because they don't exercise enough and eat to much. Crazy how that works.
LM wrote:
Xfitguy wrote:Ok then why are 80% of runners at your typical 5k event overweight?
Why are 80% of the people lifting weight in your gym overweight?
Oh yea...because they don't exercise enough and eat to much. Crazy how that works.
Of course, the number of overweight people in your typical 5K is much lower than anywhere else. And of course in top 5000m races, there is very little fat to speak of. Try running 150 mpw with Cam Levins and see if you can keep any fat on your body.
Xfitguy wrote:
mileage man wrote:Of course, the fact still remains that running burns way more calories than lifting does
That's the point you and most everyone else doesn't get: running burns more calories WHILE you work out but lifting burns more while you RECOVER.
If you go to the gym to lift weights, about 80% of the time spent there is waiting. So for an hour there you only really stress your muscles for 12 minutes. You you gain INFINITELY more than you do from 12 minutes of running.
If I would compare it to running, I'd say weightlifting is like doing 40 yard Sprints, 50 of them. Takes like 5 minutes or so. Yet you would probably agree that it burns more calories than 20 min of easy slogging. Right?
The point that many xfitters don't get is that for most everyone on letsrun, 20 min of easy slogging is called a warmup. The workout comes after that.
I suggest you try an actual workout to get a better sense of caloric expenditure by competitive runners. A classic workout to which everyone here can relate would be 10 x 400m at mile race pace with a 200m jog between -- no stopping for coconut water or any of that paleo stuff between repeats.
If you can do the 400s in 72, that would be 12 minutes of work. Let us know how it goes.
Good Rick wrote:
Dude, just give up the trolling already. The effort was pretty solid, but no regular visitor to letsrun.com is going to sincerely try to get others to quit running. You got a lot of serious response, including mine earlier, so hats off to you. 8/10.
Thank you. With that validation, I'll stop posting in this thread. Don't accept any imitations-- only the original "Xfitguy".
One last thing, none of us actually believe all of that crossfit b.s. ... we're just massive internet trolls.
Xfitguy wrote:
running math wrote:Not at all. My weight fluctuates depending on how much I run.
Are you suggesting that one CANNOT lose weight with just running alone? Surely not.
Yes and as soon as you stop you will gain weight because you don't have muscles that work while you're idling.
Why would you stop running anyway?
Even if your were injured or did stop for some reason you could still....eat less. Then you don't gain the weight back.
didnt bother reading this thread besides the first post, but seriously dude? i know naturally fat kids who get skinny from running and run well, as in sub 14:30 5k. now, i agree, for a fat person just getting started, the key to losing weight is not running. diet is the most important thing. the next best thing to do is full-body circuits. they burn fat faster than any other activity. fat runners just get hurt if they dont do anything else to help lose weight. oh, and classic weight lifting, the typical do 8-10 reps and take a 2min break and then another 8-10 reps and another break,etc... that $hit doesnt do anything for weight loss. a non-stop full-body workout is best. so instead of taking breaks in between lifting, do core, do squats, do something. never stop for more than a couple seconds.
Summing up, if you weigh 400 pounds, lifting weights and/or getting up off your lazy butt can help you to lose weight.
If you're a runner and lift weights, they will cause you to put on excess muscle and gain weight.
Excess muscle tends to hide excess fat, as muscle tissue is much more dense than adipose tissue.
If you want to be lean and healthy, then run, run, run, don't lift weights. If you can't run, then walk.
heres the deal yo wrote:
so instead of taking breaks in between lifting, do core, do squats, do something. never stop for more than a couple seconds.
You just described Crossfit. Congratulations, that was the first step into the right direction.
lol @ this video, which basically accounts for the bodybuilding "transformation" pictures:
Xfitguy wrote:
Thank you. With that validation, I'll stop posting in this thread. Don't accept any imitations-- only the original "Xfitguy".
One last thing, none of us actually believe all of that crossfit b.s. ... we're just massive internet trolls.
Gaylord Crossfitter was doing this years before you. Do you really think you're the first guy to think of this? C'mon.
A lot of people on this threat also don't seem to understand the difference between weight loss and fat loss.
When you're running, you're losing weight, but you're mostly losing muscle.
When you're lifting weights, you're gaining muscle but losing fat.
Hence the huge difference in the before/after pictures.
But maybe that's too scientific for a running board.
Best way to lose weight, this is how we do it in the south..
scientific article? where?
bangalangadanga wrote:
scientific article? where?
In the first post.
A coach advised me to add some strength training to my running, not so much for weight loss (weight is fine as is) as to help my speed.
I'm not into the whole body building thing, but I do include more body weight type exercises (planks, leg raises, squats, squat jumps, but not much weight lifting, except for assisted pull-ups and leg press), and it seems to be helping some--I'm nowhere near elite, but am making some improvements in race times. Running is my primary workout, with the strength work being an add-on, taking maybe 10-15 minutes after running.
Bottom line for any type of add-on workouts... how will they benefit my running? If the exercise helps my running, great--if it doesn't, it goes.
Xfitguy_the_real_one wrote:
A lot of people on this threat also don't seem to understand the difference between weight loss and fat loss.
When you're running, you're losing weight, but you're mostly losing muscle.
When you're lifting weights, you're gaining muscle but losing fat.
Hence the huge difference in the before/after pictures.
But maybe that's too scientific for a running board.
Again, who cares about fat loss? If you take ANY physically demanding sport seriously, you will be fit. Your whole argument doesn't apply to people on this board. We run to compete or we run because we enjoy it.
Do you go around telling college football, soccer, and basketball players that they'd lose more weight if they'd just quit their sport and concentrate on lifing? Of course you don't. Because those people aren't playing football, soccer or basketball for weight loss. Similarly, we are not running for weight loss.
Xfitguy_the_real_one wrote:
When you're running, you're losing weight, but you're mostly losing muscle.
This is empirically false, but maybe that's too scientific for an advocate of a program where people attempt to injure themselves by doing plyometrics and high volume compound lifts when fatigued.
redux wrote:
Hey, Xdorkguy, last time I checked running is about getting better at running, not getting a "good" body. Go back to your stupid XF box and do some Farging Frannies or whatever you morons name your workouts.
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also, gym fatties...needed to laugh today!
Xfitguy_the_real_one wrote:
When you're running, you're losing weight, but you're mostly losing muscle.
haha, another good one!
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