You posters don't really understand the media. Owners and editors want stories that increase readers. Reporters want the story or article that advances their careers.
They look for public interest hooks. Poor innocent black kid shot by vigilante is a great angle for them.
And you know something? IT WORKED! Everybody is reading the their stories and talking about the case.
Its been very good for business.
My girlfriend and I were planning a luxurious getaway on the verdict weekend so that we wouldn't be bombarded with media chaos. I was thinking Camden, NJ or East St. Louis. Would you recommend this?
nokaman wrote:
I live in South FL and maybe in places like Overtown in Miami will have riots but I assure in places like Boca Raton where I work- nothing to fear.
I can tell you that Miami Dade will probably burn down if the nogs get rowdy.
Orlando and parts of Tampon bay included.
MarathonMind wrote:
Oftenrunning52 wrote:...his family has said there is no known recording of his voice. At best you might be able to eliminate Zimmerman as the screamer, but you can never prove that Martin is the screamer.In this day and age of voice mail and video capture I find that hard to believe. Talk about naïve.
Call me naive all you want, but do you think they would hide it if they had his voice recorded? If they had it, they would have had it analyzed and released the voice match at some huge press conference. That piece of evidence would be the nail in the coffin of Zimmerman's case. Instead the indictment against Zimmerman simply says that Martin's mother said the voice screaming was her son. Clearly not the strongest evidence, maybe a little biased.
Oftenrunning52 wrote: That piece of evidence would be the nail in the coffin of Zimmerman's case.I'm glad you see that. Stay tuned.
Orenthal James wrote:
nokaman wrote:I live in South FL and maybe in places like Overtown in Miami will have riots but I assure in places like Boca Raton where I work- nothing to fear.
I can tell you that Miami Dade will probably burn down if the nogs get rowdy.
Orlando and parts of Tampon bay included.
The Cubans in Miami will never let that happen. They own that town and the blacks know it.
La Habana wrote:
Orenthal James wrote:I can tell you that Miami Dade will probably burn down if the nogs get rowdy.
Orlando and parts of Tampon bay included.
The Cubans in Miami will never let that happen. They own that town and the blacks know it.
google arthur mcduffie riots in 1980, it happened then and miami has had a couple of smaller riots since the big 1980 riot. riots will be everywhere from miami, florida to anchorage, alaska if zimmerman is acquited, and he will be.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
fixed wrote:[quote]chill, kids wrote:
If Zimmerman really acted like a ruthless vigilante, then why did he get into a fight and get his head bashed in?
Head bashed in = loosing a fight he started.
Under the Florida statute it is perfectly legal to start a fight, then when it starts to go against you (and you are in reasonable fear of your life) you can then kill the other person. So as horrifying as it is, even if the state could prove that Zimmerman physically attacked Martin, as long as Z could convince a jury that he was reasonably in fear of his life then he is in the clear (legally, morally it is a whole different story).
776.041 Use of force by aggressor. —The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
NO. You are wrong. What you posted specifically states that justification prescribed in the previous sections (justifiable homicide) is NOT available provokes the use of force against himself. Learn to read the law. The Florida stand your ground law is a great law that allows people to avoid becoming a victim.
You're wrong wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:Head bashed in = loosing a fight he started.
Under the Florida statute it is perfectly legal to start a fight, then when it starts to go against you (and you are in reasonable fear of your life) you can then kill the other person. So as horrifying as it is, even if the state could prove that Zimmerman physically attacked Martin, as long as Z could convince a jury that he was reasonably in fear of his life then he is in the clear (legally, morally it is a whole different story).
776.041 Use of force by aggressor. —The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
NO. You are wrong. What you posted specifically states that justification prescribed in the previous sections (justifiable homicide) is NOT available provokes the use of force against himself. Learn to read the law. The Florida stand your ground law is a great law that allows people to avoid becoming a victim.
Read the part after the unless
If you start losing badly enough than shooting the guy becomes a legal option again.
RTYUIO wrote:
[quote]Mr. Moo wrote:
Mr. Zimmerman is a retired Jewish judge.
what difference does it make if he is Jewish?
It makes a difference because his father has shielded him from legal problems he would have otherwise had from previous run-ins with the law, including violently resisting arrest. He could not do this were he not among the chosen people. That's the way things are in the USA in 2012
If it made no difference, then the mainstream media would mention the fact; instead they go on about his mom being hispanic/peruvian and, when it comes to his Dad, saying only he is white.
The state's case is more than solid; however, it is more than apparent they are going into the tank on this one as they are under pressure to make sure it goes away
Mr. Moo wrote:
Mr. Zimmerman is a retired Jewish judge.
RTYUIO wrote:
what difference does it make if he is Jewish?
Mr. Moo wrote:
It makes a difference because his father has shielded him from legal problems he would have otherwise had from previous run-ins with the law, including violently resisting arrest. He could not do this were he not among the chosen people. That's the way things are in the USA in 2012
You are out to lunch, and an anti-semite. The Nation of Islam called and they want you to put on your tinfoil hat.
RTYUIO wrote:
Mr. Moo wrote:Mr. Zimmerman is a retired Jewish judge.
RTYUIO wrote:
what difference does it make if he is Jewish?
Mr. Moo wrote:
It makes a difference because his father has shielded him from legal problems he would have otherwise had from previous run-ins with the law, including violently resisting arrest. He could not do this were he not among the chosen people. That's the way things are in the USA in 2012
You are out to lunch, and an anti-semite. The Nation of Islam called and they want you to put on your tinfoil hat.
How do you explain the legal disposition of his previous run-ins wiht police?
How do you explain the absolute silence of the mainstream media on his Dad's Jewishness?
Oh wait. That's right. You don't deal with facts. You have been programmed to react with libelous comments.
Mr. Moo wrote:
How do you explain the legal disposition of his previous run-ins wiht police?
How do you explain the absolute silence of the mainstream media on his Dad's Jewishness?
Oh wait. That's right. You don't deal with facts. You have been programmed to react with libelous comments.
oh right....ZOG!
Its part of a HUGE conspiracy.....Jews, Freemasons, the Illuminati. And only beacons of light like the Nation of Islam are exposing this.
GZ's charges were dropped...after his father had retired. Charges are dropped all the time. Its pretty common.
GZ's father is a practising Catholic. How does that make him Jewish? *his* mother? Are you serious?
out.to.lunch. Go pray w/ minister Farakhan.
[quote]RTYUIO wrote:
GZ's charges were dropped...after his father had retired. Charges are dropped all the time. Its pretty common.
It is pretty common to drop charges of violently resisting arrest by police if the perp's father has retired? Can you expand upon that?
GZ's father is a practising Catholic. How does that make him Jewish? *his* mother? Are you serious?
It is okay to falsely claim his father is Catholic but it is anti-semitic to accurately point out he is Jewish? Again, I need a little more detail of your thought processes on arriving at that conclusion.
out.to.lunch. Go pray w/ minister Farakhan.
I know that it is perfectly okay in 2012 USA to pretend that blacks and Muslims are evil boogeymen. I do not see how that advances your argument.
You are reacting irrationally -a tell-tale sign of having been conditioned
The onus is on you to PROVE
1. Robert Zimmerman is a practicing Jew
2. The charges against GZ were dropped because of the influence of RZ
3. There is a vast Jewish conspiracy
Please demonstrate PROOF of all of these, and then I will stop calling you a kook. But until then, you are just another nutjob.
wow...the message board was only part bad until Mr. Moo got here. now one could only assume he's a troll and responding to his absurdities isn't worth it.
more importantly is what one poster said before..the whole voice analysis by professionals was based off his voice on a phone call to 911...thats it...not a great sample. why dont you people who truly think there is now way it was GZ crying for help go and listen to george's comments in court (video is available everywhere)...listen to him speaking there and then go and listen to the 911 help cries...if you take your blinders off you'll hear the truth.
TKTKRTK - you should not argue from a false premise. I certainly did not suggest imprisoning black children or anything so foolish. You are deflecting, and not dealing with the real problem. My America may, in your vocabulary (I assuming a mediocre level of education on your part), "suck", but even if that is true it does not address the very real problem of grossly disproportionate crime committed by black males. And yes, this is so even with the problems with the justice system, where it is certainly the case that people without economic means (and often they are minorities) do not navigate it well. But at the end of the day, you have inordinate amounts of crime committed by black males and the fear that it engenders. You can call me names, wish that I don't vote, and any other ad hominem attack, but it still does not change the fact that there is a real problem. Making yourself feel morally superior does not change the facts. And while our racial history in this country is a terrible stain, we have to move past it, and the black crime problem is today's problem, and a really significant one. One cannot understate the negative impact it has on communities, families, and the development of human capital. To ignore it frankly is to lack compassion, for the victims, for those caught up in the vicious cycle, and the communities and families.
And I don't really care about all of your hypotheticals. Heck, you might be right. But what is important by any measure is the case that the state brings. Your feelings and hypotheticals don't matter, and moreover, we can all comment accurately on what is in the public record in the trial proceedings. And again, if you feel strongly that an injustice has taken place, why are you not addressing the woeful performance so far by the state? I am at a loss at to why Al Sharpton, the Martin family lawyer, etc., are not absolutely up in arms over the special prosecutor's handling of the case. Aren't you?
There has been a long list of attempts trying to convict Zimmerman for this
1. He is a racists
2. He is unstable
3. He assaulted TM
4. The Jews
5. He woke up intending to murder a black man
6. TM was the one screaming on the call
All of this is NONSENSE....and the evidence proves it. The prosecution barely has a case...
RTYUIO wrote:
Mr. Moo wrote:How do you explain the legal disposition of his previous run-ins wiht police?
How do you explain the absolute silence of the mainstream media on his Dad's Jewishness?
Oh wait. That's right. You don't deal with facts. You have been programmed to react with libelous comments.
oh right....ZOG!
Its part of a HUGE conspiracy.....Jews, Freemasons, the Illuminati. And only beacons of light like the Nation of Islam are exposing this.
GZ's charges were dropped...after his father had retired. Charges are dropped all the time. Its pretty common.
GZ's father is a practising Catholic. How does that make him Jewish? *his* mother? Are you serious?
out.to.lunch. Go pray w/ minister Farakhan.
QUIT FEEDING THE TROLLS!
Didn't you see the sign on the cage?
joho wrote:
QUIT FEEDING THE TROLLS!
Didn't you see the sign on the cage?
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Not trolling to call T Martin a thug, or Zimmerman an hispanic or white. Or to say the state has no case.
Only trolling of the J word mentioned.
Why is that?