Wariner 45.64

I thought the EPO tests came about in ~2004? Because Wariner ran very well after that, including his PR in 2007.

EPO won't do jack for 400.

400 is 80% Speed, 15% mental, 5% endurance.

Doped to the gills with EPO might get you .2-.4 seconds.

So add that to MJ, BR, and QW times.

"Pls searchengine the phrase 'begs the question' before you use it incorrectly another time.

We have lost the fort>fortay issue due to rampant mispronouncation. Will this expression be the next to fall to common missusage.

Irony and it's correct usage is another lost cause. Even thik malmo has abandoned ship on that one."

What's your stance on poor spelling, improper utilization of punctuation, and sentence fragments? Should a search engine be used for that as well?

anyone remember when AJ Acosta accused Wariner of EPO doping during Jeremy's peak?

Apple Pie:

How do you know that EPO won't do jack for 400?

How do you know that the 400 is 80% speed, 15% mental, 5% endurance?

jerry123 wrote:

merritt is a horrible creature .

letsrun-turn to wariner .

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I like Wariner, but it is entirely unfair to say Mr. Merritt is a 'horrible creature'. He made a dumb mistake, yes, but he served his punishment and is a hard working and talented athlete representing the USA.

Apple Pie wrote:

EPO won't do jack for 400.

400 is 80% Speed, 15% mental, 5% endurance.

Doped to the gills with EPO might get you .2-.4 seconds.

So add that to MJ, BR, and QW times.

And those percentages are based on what? Where did you find those numbers?

In actual fact, 200 is 25% aerobic, 400 is 40% aerobic.

Why do you think Clyde Hart keeps talking about the importance of aerobic training?

Lets look at the evidence !..

why would 400m runner take epo , antonio pettigrew.

most be a reason.

and my reason for forming opinion on m. johnson is

the bare faced lies read in media especially british media

where works for bbc in major champianships.

Michael Johnson: Why drugs cheat shamed me into handing back ...

www.telegraph.co.uk/.../Michael-Johnson-Why-drugs-cheat-shamed

Actually, some of the 100 meter people with Victor Conte were taking EPO as part of the package. I believe both Marion Jones and Kelli White did this. Apparently, it is not a competition aid (the aerobic system doesn't even turn full on until 13 seconds into a flat out sprint), but it helps with recovery during or maybe after hard training sessions.

dont think wariner had to worry about testing in 2007

as see with times .

but 2008 he was very cautious as knew that would be tested

for it and cera and bloods kept in storage .

so stopped use months before olympics ,

obviously still a top 400m athlete but big difference between

low 44 and 43.45 .

and some of blood boosting capility would of still remained

if careful during buildup to summer 2008 .

or simply maybe as been said getting old ,especially

so, now that clean.

as for br's record was likely due to chronic steroid

use ,or with even blood doping and the previous record to more basic steroids .

records not possible without them , as steroids will

increase red blood count aswell but not as high or reliably as epo .

and epo's enhancements not all just to aerobic nature but

increase various enzymes and systems that mean muscles use

energy better and ways that cant be just due to incresed

red blood cell count or other aerobic markers.

wheter or how much of 400m is aerobic dont know

but knowing ways to enhance it .

he ran a solid 200m for him recently and then felt very good in the last 100m of a 4x400m the previous week, so this race hardly says there's a problem.

didn't wariner run 43.7 in '08 despite changing coaches?

jjjjjjjj wrote:

didn't wariner run 43.7 in '08 despite changing coaches?

Yes, very interesting. Just wonder when he is goign to run that time again, if ever.

More proof Wariner is DONE.

Factt wrote:

WHOA.. I just realized that the dude won the race by 1.6 seconds. This is meaningless because of that.

It's not meaningless, because it was Wariner himself who noted that his last 100 was cr@p.

What will be interesting will be to see not where Wariner's times end up, but where everybody else's times will end up...I don't think they'll be great, 400 times have been getting worse over the past while.

He might still end up in the thick of things, even with an apparently mediocre time like 44-mid...IF he is capable of 44-mid, that is...

Wariner just ran 46.43 today. More in this thread: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4532695

Good luck with that SG, becuase he raced a bunch of nobodies on a new track at a small college in Texas.

But next week at Mt Sac:

Event 108 Men's 400 Meter Dash Olympic Dev. Elite

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Saturday 4/21/2012 - 12:00 PM

World Record: 43.18 1996 Michael Johnson, USA

American Rec: 43.18 1996 Michael Johnson, Nike

Meet Record: 44.45 1992 Steve Lewis, Santa Monica TC

Name Year Team Finals

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Section 1 Timed Finals

1 Lennon-Ford, Luke Great Britain

2 Rooney, Martyn Loughborough

3 Cameron, Corey Tallahassee T&E

4 Roberts, Gil Texas Tech

5 Wariner, Jeremy Adidas

6 Hughes, Joey USC

7 Neville, David Nike

8 Nolan, Errol Houston

9 Al-Masrahi, Yousef HSI

For anybody who thinks that Wariner's 20.53 was mediocre, here are the results from UTECH Classic 2012:

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MEET RECORD: R 20.33 4/16/2011 Yohan Blake, RACERS TRACK CLU

Name Year Team Finals Wind

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Finals

1 Carter, Nesta MVP 20.48 0.7

2 Bailey, Daniel Racers Track Club 20.60 NWI

3 Dwyer, Rasheed G.C. Foster College 20.71 NWI

4 Anderson, Kenroy Racers Track Club 20.76 0.7

5 Spence, Lanceford Sprint Tech 20.77 NWI

6 Coote, Denard Utech Jamaica 20.84 0.7

7 Callandar, Emmanuel Swept Track Club 20.88 NWI

8 Forte, Julian Utech Jamaica 21.13 NWI

9 Fitten, Chumaine Racers Track Club 21.17 NWI

10 Chambers, Dwayne MVP 21.32 NWI

11 Smith, Kavean Uwi Mona 21.40 NWI

12 Nevers, Adolphus G.C. Foster College 21.51 NWI

13 Headley, Ryan Swept Track Club 21.70 NWI

14 Brown, Xavier G.C. Foster College 21.86 0.7

15 Campbell, Javon Para-Olympian 23.13 NWI

That 20.53 is looking pretty decent right about now. There are some good names on this list.

Looking forward to Mt. SAC.