it got a little violent in tampa today. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1829387/pg1
it got a little violent in tampa today. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1829387/pg1
lol you read GLP too?
oh lawdy.
This is why whenever a white is killed,I feel it's a good
thing.
Hooch and Blow wrote:
lol you read GLP too?
oh lawdy.
no i just googled zimmerman possible riots and got this link.
i am interested in seeing if this thing will lead to riots, i think it will, i just hope it happens after the boston marathon.
is this like the national enquirer? i cant find any other sites or news source confirming the video incident was related to zimmerman/martin incident and other stories at the site seem bizzarre.
openmind wrote:
Why are people turning this into a racial issue? Just because the victim was black, does not mean that it was a racially motivated assault. Are you saying that if the victim was not black then he would have gone unnoticed by Zimmerman? Zimmerman seems like an equal opportunity nut case, and I think that it's tragic that these types of incidents always have to be labeled as hate crimes.
I'm not saying that prejudice does not exist, but did I miss something that points to Zimmerman as not liking blacks. Who is to say the the result would not have been the same if the victim was a non black teen walking through the neighborhood?
This is a senseless and tragic event, why try to turn into something that it may not be.
Can you honestly say with a straight face that if this was a black man who shot a unarmed white kid that he would not have been arrested on the spot? You are either an azzhole liar or a very naive person.
Nat Turner wrote:
Can you honestly say with a straight face that if this was a black man who shot a unarmed white kid that he would not have been arrested on the spot? You are either an azzhole liar or a very naive person.
Hell. Most white people would have been arrested on the spot.
The one determining factor that the mainstream media is leaving out is that this is the fourth time that Zimmerman has been shielded from arrest due to the influence of his Jewish judge of a father
Uncle Buck wrote:
Hell. Most white people would have been arrested on the spot.
The one determining factor that the mainstream media is leaving out is that this is the fourth time that Zimmerman has been shielded from arrest due to the influence of his Jewish judge of a father
Conspiracy theories like this, because they can never be verified nor disproven, provide wonderful cover for those who want to make an excuse for their own behaviour.
The sheriffs office in Sanford is under enormous pressure to make an arrest, but they cannot, because according to the law, the police and prosecutors office have no reason to believe he committed a crime.
Hypotheticals do not matter. "If he had been a left-handed albino in a clown suit". All that matter are the facts, and the actions taken as a result of that. And so far, the actions pronounce, "No crime has been committed".
If if if....that is meaningless. And just excuse making. A young man picked a fight with and assaulted a person, and that person defended himself. End of story. Sad, but true.
Nat Turner wrote:
Can you honestly say with a straight face that if this was a black man who shot a unarmed white kid that he would not have been arrested on the spot? You are either an azzhole liar or a very naive person.
a black man with a permit to carry a concealed weapon...who was assaulted by a white kid....a white kid who smashed his head into the ground, broke his nose, and went for the gun?
He would be free now as well.
But how often does this happen? How often when a black person is charged with a gun crime, does he have a CCW permit?
TYUIOP wrote:
[quote]Uncle Buck wrote:
Hell. Most white people would have been arrested on the spot.
The one determining factor that the mainstream media is leaving out is that this is the fourth time that Zimmerman has been shielded from arrest due to the influence of his Jewish judge of a father
"Conspiracy theories like this, because they can never be verified nor disproven, provide wonderful cover for those who want to make an excuse for their own behaviour."
I guess the other three times he was detained, including once for violence against a police officer, and had his arrest expunged there was also no proof of a crime? When people start throwing around the "conspiracy theory" attack it is because they cannot argue on the facts. Are you even aware of the three other incidents? Or of his father' position?
"The sheriffs office in Sanford is under enormous pressure to make an arrest, but they cannot, because according to the law, the police and prosecutors office have no reason to believe he committed a crime."
Really? Zimmerman is known to have followed the unarmed teen-aged T Martin and to have shot him to death. That would seem to be constitute evidence of a crime
"A young man picked a fight with and assaulted a person, and that person defended himself."
A young man was followed by a man who outweighed him by 100 pounds and had been told be police to stop following him. The man then shot him to death. The man claims to have been attacked by the teen -- there is no evidence to support this claim.
Uncle Buck wrote:
"A young man picked a fight with and assaulted a person, and that person defended himself."
A young man was followed by a man who outweighed him by 100 pounds and had been told be police to stop following him. The man then shot him to death. The man claims to have been attacked by the teen -- there is no evidence to support this claim.
TM assaulted GZ. Smashed his head into the ground, and broke GZ's nose. 3 witnesses have corroborated this.
It is not a crime to follow a person and ask him, "what are you doing here". Assault is a crime. defending yourself after being assaulted is not a crime.
As far as the other charges expunged form his record - proof? You can show a document that this occurred?
"TM assaulted GZ. Smashed his head into the ground, and broke GZ's nose. 3 witnesses have corroborated this."
But Zimmerman did not have a broken nose. Nor was his head smashed in.And how is it that a 170 pound 17 year old so easily overwhelmed a grlown man who outweighed him by 100 pounds? He surely did not sneak up on him.It was Zimmerman following him, not the other way around
"It is not a crime to follow a person and ask him, "what are you doing here". Assault is a crime. defending yourself after being assaulted is not a crime."
Once again you are accepting facts not in evidence. How do you know this is how it happened? Because the oft detained but never arrested shooter says so?
As far as the other charges expunged form his record - proof? You can show a document that this occurred?[/quote]
I guess you don't know how to use google. Okay. I will help. From the Orlando Sentinel:Zimmerman has allegedly avoided serious charges in the past including resisting an officer with violence, the news site RollingOut.com has uncovered.
“According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison,” Danielle Canada, who looked at Zimmerman’s record, writes on RollingOut.com.
“All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.”
Zimmerman’s mother, Gladys who is Peruvian, used to be an interpreter at the county courthouse. While his father, Robert Zimmerman, who is white, is a former Orange County magistrate judge.
Uncle Buck wrote:
I guess you don't know how to use google. Okay. I will help. From the Orlando Sentinel:Zimmerman has allegedly avoided serious charges in the past including resisting an officer with violence, the news site RollingOut.com has uncovered.
“According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison,” Danielle Canada, who looked at Zimmerman’s record, writes on RollingOut.com.
“All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.”
Zimmerman’s mother, Gladys who is Peruvian, used to be an interpreter at the county courthouse. While his father, Robert Zimmerman, who is white, is a former Orange County magistrate judge.
"allegedly"
All this is circumstantial - he was not charged. So what? It happens all the time. You are seeing a conspiracy to let this guy run around shooting black people, when there is nothing.
And yes GZ had a broken nose and had had his head smashed in. Its in the police report, and the hospital report. And at least 1 witness and maybe 3 corroborated seeing TM on top of GZ.
You'd love to think TM is some helpless victim. GZ had called the police 46 times with similar reports. You think TM is the first person GZ confronted? TM was the first person stupid enough to assault GZ after he asked a simple question.
TYUIOP wrote:
[quote]Uncle Buck wrote:
I guess you don't know how to use google. Okay. I will help. From the Orlando Sentinel:Zimmerman has allegedly avoided serious charges in the past including resisting an officer with violence, the news site RollingOut.com has uncovered.
“According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison,” Danielle Canada, who looked at Zimmerman’s record, writes on RollingOut.com.
“All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.”
Zimmerman’s mother, Gladys who is Peruvian, used to be an interpreter at the county courthouse. While his father, Robert Zimmerman, who is white, is a former Orange County magistrate judge.
"allegedly"
I did not see the word allegedly in the report.
"All this is circumstantial - he was not charged".
Actually, if you read the article, you will see he was charged in each case but the charges mysteriously went away
And yes GZ had a broken nose and had had his head smashed in.
I saw the video of GZ at the police station. He clearly had no broken nose. Have you ever seen a broken nose? You can't miss it. And if he had any injuries to his head at all they surely were not serious or visible. Do you not believe your own eyes?
Wow.
Your head is buried deep into the sand.
From the Orlando Sentinel:Zimmerman has allegedly avoided serious charges in the past including resisting an officer with violence, the news site RollingOut.com has uncovered.
Charges cannot "mysteriously vanish". They are dismissed. Its a common occurrence.
I believe the police report, and the report from the hospital. They are professionals, who saw him first hand. You are watching a grainy video hoping to confirm what you wish were the case, but is in fact just a fantasy. You want desperately to believe that this child was minding his own business when a racist white man walked up and blew him away. This did not happen. Not even close.
You can discount every source that does not conform with your desired outcome. You can construct any scenario you want in your mind. But the FACTS are in the police report and the FACT is that GZ has not been charged.
TYUIOP wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:I guess you don't know how to use google. Okay. I will help. From the Orlando Sentinel:Zimmerman has allegedly avoided serious charges in the past including resisting an officer with violence, the news site RollingOut.com has uncovered.
“According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison,” Danielle Canada, who looked at Zimmerman’s record, writes on RollingOut.com.
“All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.”
Zimmerman’s mother, Gladys who is Peruvian, used to be an interpreter at the county courthouse. While his father, Robert Zimmerman, who is white, is a former Orange County magistrate judge.
"allegedly"
All this is circumstantial - he was not charged. So what? It happens all the time. You are seeing a conspiracy to let this guy run around shooting black people, when there is nothing.
And yes GZ had a broken nose and had had his head smashed in. Its in the police report, and the hospital report. And at least 1 witness and maybe 3 corroborated seeing TM on top of GZ.
You'd love to think TM is some helpless victim. GZ had called the police 46 times with similar reports. You think TM is the first person GZ confronted? TM was the first person stupid enough to assault GZ after he asked a simple question.
And lets just forget the TWO independent audio experts that confirmed that it was NOT Zimmerman screaming for help on the 911 tape, it was Trayvon. Totally debunks the 1 witness who said Zimmerman was screaming for help.
I may have missed it, but I sure didnt see those experts on the Sean Hannity Show. That racist right wing bitch does his very best every night to find a guest to defend Zimmerman.
slapacracker wrote:
And lets just forget the TWO independent audio experts that confirmed that it was NOT Zimmerman screaming for help on the 911 tape, it was Trayvon. Totally debunks the 1 witness who said Zimmerman was screaming for help.
so you are saying GZ first assaulted TM and then shot him? Why not just shoot him first? And 2 "experts" versus a person who was actually there? Really...
All the evidence will be discredited by certain groups that want to believe that GZ brazenly walked up and shot TM. Hospital reports, police reports, grand jury etc etc etc. Its all part of a huge coordinated conspiracy.
This is what the evidence says:
A young black man assaulted somebody (extraordinarily common) and had the misfortune to be shot for his trouble (very rare).
It would not be surprising to find out Zimmerman propositioned the boy,we all know white men like to take showers with little boys.
lpd wrote:
It would not be surprising to find out Zimmerman propositioned the boy,we all know white men like to take showers with little boys.
the census may call him white, the media may call him white but in Texas, where we are now over 50% hispanic, that guy is hispanic...no one in the right freaking mind would really consider Zimmerman white. If Zimmerman shot a white kid I promise he wouldn't be white.
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How about Letsrun is full of intelligent people... unlike you.You probably think it is OK to not follow police instructions. They told Zimmerman NOT to follow Martin.[/quote]
Perhaps, jerkoff, Zimmerman didn't follow Trevon.... seems Trevon snuck up on Zimmerman and rocked him with a punch to the face.....game on.