2012 Patriot League XC

Think harder CB. Google your user name and then think back to our debate. It's a bit of an abstraction. Are you an engineer? The second paragraph is pretty direct. Not responding means you don't want to play, haven't ever been to Hamilton, don't plan to be at Colgate for the PLC or don't drink beer.

Rustamon wrote:

Think harder CB. Google your user name and then think back to our debate. It's a bit of an abstraction. Are you an engineer? The second paragraph is pretty direct. Not responding means you don't want to play, haven't ever been to Hamilton, don't plan to be at Colgate for the PLC or don't drink beer.

You may need a physic evaluation. I have no idea what drinking beer has anything to do with anything.

Is this just a conglomeration of colgate's track team trolling everyone as an inside joke? Really bizarre for the rest of the league.

Thank God I'm a Country Boy wrote:

Rustamon wrote:

Think harder CB. Google your user name and then think back to our debate. It's a bit of an abstraction. Are you an engineer? The second paragraph is pretty direct. Not responding means you don't want to play, haven't ever been to Hamilton, don't plan to be at Colgate for the PLC or don't drink beer.

You may need a physic evaluation. I have no idea what drinking beer has anything to do with anything.

Is this just a conglomeration of colgate's track team trolling everyone as an inside joke? Really bizarre for the rest of the league.

Why would Colgate's track team troll pretending to be a Colgate graduate, athlete or fan? It just makes Colgate look bad. Que bono? Bucknell and Lafayette. I think you were on track with the conglomeration but it's probably a bunch of runners from a rival XC school.

What's a physic evaluation? Sounds like something you better start studying for Stan

stats guy wrote:

Thank God I'm a Country Boy wrote:

You may need a physic evaluation. I have no idea what drinking beer has anything to do with anything.

Is this just a conglomeration of colgate's track team trolling everyone as an inside joke? Really bizarre for the rest of the league.

Why would Colgate's track team troll pretending to be a Colgate graduate, athlete or fan? It just makes Colgate look bad. Que bono? Bucknell and Lafayette. I think you were on track with the conglomeration but it's probably a bunch of runners from a rival XC school.

Most likely former BU and LC runners who have nothing better to do. I know current PL runners don't wanna talk too much smack right now because its a tense point in the season. Don't want any bad karma.

stats guy wrote:

You may need a physic evaluation. I have no idea what drinking beer has anything to do with anything.

Is this just a conglomeration of colgate's track team trolling everyone as an inside joke? Really bizarre for the rest of the league.

Why would Colgate's track team troll pretending to be a Colgate graduate, athlete or fan? It just makes Colgate look bad. Que bono? Bucknell and Lafayette. I think you were on track with the conglomeration but it's probably a bunch of runners from a rival XC school.

It's a mysterious cabal, guys. You won't know about it until it's exposed on Fox News... Gimme a break. Summary:

1. Rustamon (RM) took issue with Circuitsssss stating that comparison's from last weekend (on flat, fast courses) won't help you handicap the PLC.

2. TGIACB jumps in to disagree.

3. Stats Guy (SG) piles on awarding the nascent debate to TCIACB

4. RM comes back with witty yet obtuse recap of his original argument and an invitation to bet on the outcome of the PLC. RM not trolling, just wanted to wager on whether his method is better than others. RM willing go first, btw.

5. TCIACB doesn't get joke; doesn't respond to wager.

6. Mountain Mohawks jumps in with personal insult which all ignore.

7. RM invites TGIACB to think harder and to consider response on the proposed wager.

8. TGIACB accuses RM of needing medical attention and has evidently never taken the other side of a wager to be paid in beer. (Apologies: RM meant no disrespect for your training regime. Think of the wager payoff as figurative, if you like.) Conspiracy theory first posited.

9. SG jumps in with counter-argument and alternative conspiracy theory.

That brings us current. In the end, it's simple. I think some runners are better on flat courses and others are better on hills. While there are some clear favorites for each PLC race, stacking the runners (in an attempt to predict the outcome) based on flat course times will only tell you part of the answer. This is not a radical proposition. TGIACB feels a little different. How much? Not clear. I'm sorry if my banter appeared to be trolling. I am interested in the outcome but I have no stake in it.

I'm not sure how we got so far off the Deroo track, but everyone knows Sarah Chabal was the hottest girl at Colgate.

I think Rustamon's a (proud) father of a Colgate freshman harrier.

That being said, I think he may be in over his head with the LR crowd.

Hell nah

So, I'm a proud father or a malicious troll or a member of a Patriot League team or an overzealous fan. Anyone with a thimble full of brains and 15 minutes could probably figure it out. It is well established on this post that I have a rooting interest in Colgate which is difficult because they're not very good.

Facts: I am a father. I've been on the course many times but am not a Colgate or Patriot League school alum. My interest in XC is not limited to the Patriot League (easy to check - sorry guys) nor is it limited to college runners (again, easy to check). For instance, there's a HS team within 40 miles of Colgate which would put five girls inside Colgate's top three women. Maybe seven.

On a forum such as this, where you can change your name for each post, its really hard, or in the end of little consequence, to get in over your head (but thank you for the admonition HWIT). I do disagree that jokes about Johnson's prowess or DeRoo's preference are funny. I'm more interested in whether he can do it again or whether Colgate will find a replacement for her. That's it, really. Pretty simple.

Let's get back on track, only three weeks to go.

Lehigh

Navy

American

Bucknell

Army

Colgate

Holy Cross

Lehigh

Individuals:

Johnson

Allen (where was he this weekend?)

Mueller

Fruit Loops wrote:

Let's get back on track, only three weeks to go.

Navy

Lehigh

American

Bucknell

Army

Colgate

Holy Cross

Lafayette

Lehigh has a reputation for peaking in September. They're a good team, but Navy runs well at the right time. If this were a power ranking, Lehigh would be first. As a PL forecast, Navy is still first, IMO.

I bet Lehigh is gonna have one; they cleaned up at Paul Short. Also, everyone should have their fun now because next year, the Patriot League will burn to the ground at the hands of Rich Peters.

And fo' realz, can everyone just ignore Rustamon? If we do it for long enough, maybe he will stop posting

It'll be interesting to see how everyone handles the hills at Colgate. Reasoning would have it that they will hurt the middle distance runners more than the pure long distance guys. It's hard to believe, but a 1500 runner can take on a flat course like Lehigh much much better than a hilly course.

I also think the schools that went to the early season invite have an advantage over those that didn't. It's a technical course and is narrow in areas, and being really familiar with the spots that you can make a move can really help guys.

Bison Burger wrote:

It'll be interesting to see how everyone handles the hills at Colgate. Reasoning would have it that they will hurt the middle distance runners more than the pure long distance guys. It's hard to believe, but a 1500 runner can take on a flat course like Lehigh much much better than a hilly course.

I also think the schools that went to the early season invite have an advantage over those that didn't. It's a technical course and is narrow in areas, and being really familiar with the spots that you can make a move can really help guys.

Good points all! So many xc courses are essentially road courses with grass or woodchips, relatively flat with lots of room and large turns. Heck they have to be in order to field some of these massive events. I think the technical course favors strength and experience over pace.

Seriously, Rustamon? NO ONE likes you here. Stop posting. You're insight adds nothing. You know why? Because you're a sorry old man living vicariously through a handful of 90 pound girls. It's weird. Be a normal guy. Watch football like the rest of the 40 or 50somethings in America who are going through their midlife crisis. In summation, you really add nothing, no one likes you, go away.

Sh1t on me all you want, but I'm calling Bucknell for the win right now. Ya'll want know what hit you at patriots. #wenttoaclubcalledthebears

Stop the h@te

let us not be divided by our differences, but united by #elisederoo

denny wrote:

Stop the h@te

let us not be divided by our differences, but united by #elisederoo

I don't mind Rusatamon that much.

And for all those wondering, it isn't uncommon for there to be serious snow in central new york before Halloween. We saw it last year at Lehigh. That course does not handle well at all in mud and snow.

But it's pretty great watching the girls slip and slide down that steep downhill after exiting the upper/middle loop.