........PSAC.......

Here's a stab at some predictions for PSAC's:

800M

1. Kacsur

2. Rector

3. Hatch

Kacsur's coach (Caufield) was an 1:47 800m guy himself, so you gotta give him the nod. Hatch is a frosh, and Rector has finsished second before.

1500M

1. Hahn

2. Pomerantz

3. Neyhart

Gotta give the nod to Boro...goes with my "don't bet against Boro" philosophy that I usually only apply to XC but will apply to track in this case.

3000M Steeple

1. Hilton

2. Miller

3. Boyer

Think Hilton is the class of the field. Miller will follow his teammate to second building on his solid run at Penn.

5000M

1. Clark

2. McClaughlin

3. Weiss

I'm hoping Clark only runs one event -- the 5K. Would love to see him go for a fast time and to save up for a double at Nats. I think Weiss will win the 10K...and McClaughlin will only run the 5K...hence, I'm picking Boro for second and Rock for third. A pick that will get much criticism (and probably deservedly so).

10000M

1. Weiss

2. Hankins

3. Hahn

As mentioned above, I don't think Clark runs the 10. If he does, he wins. I'm probably not giving the Haven guys enough credit and giving too much for Boro, but I always expect Watts to pull something from up his sleeve...in this case, I think it will be Hankins and Hahn running every step of this race together and teaming up to beat Getz & Yates.

well check the entry list, no Neyhart in the 1500, No Hahn in the meet, no weiss clark in the 5k, no McCluaghlin in the meet.

Hoovis,

You are an idiot, check the entries before you make predictions. Every one of your predictions is so far off because you were too stupid to check the entries before making everyone stupider by posting your thoughts.

Where are the entries listed?

it is labeled as "performance list" on their website about decathalon/hep entries. i thought that was the direct athletics one until i clicked on it.

Did anyone notice that they changed the meet around and the 10,000 is Thursday PM at 8:50 and the 5k at 6:00 Friday afternoon.

I heard that they are testing this schedule out this year. I

don't really like this change. Having the 5,000 at the end of the meet was classic. All those bodies out there giving

what they got to try to scrap some points for the team. Plus

it is nice to have a distance race there at the end when

the meet is on the line.

I just remember that with the 5k at the end of the meet everyone who was qualified was out there, people doubling back from the 10,000, steeple, 1500. Now

instead of racing the 10,000 Friday morning and then the 5k the next afternoon it is Thursday Night and the next afternoon. That cuts the down on the rest by about 12 hours. This also changes the Steeple/5k double, where you'd run the 5k the day before.

Wow, if i really was able to make EVERYONE on this thread stupider (???) that is one hell of an accomplishment :)

Fvcking thing sucks wrote:

...you were too stupid to check the entries before making everyone stupider by posting your thoughts.

Wags --

I agree completely. The 5K at PSAC's was never a race to watch if you were interested in "fast times" -- but I also felt it was always the best pure race of the track season. Everybody in the PSAC from 1500 runners through to 10K runners in one event duking it out on tired legs.

I thought the timing of it (the last race) was important for two reasons:

1.) As you said, it enabled everybody to participate as there other running was done and there was no reason not to do it

2.) It balanced out the 10K guys and the steeple guys and the 1500 guys. Essentially, the 10K guys had raced more miles, but had more rest than the shorter distance guys. That balance (longer/more rest vs. shorter/less rest) just seemed to work.

Hoovis

Hoovis,

I think the past 5 or so years had shown that doubling back from the 10k was an advantage over doubling back in the 5k. I know Cowan, myself, weiss, Blood have all accomplished the 10k/5k double on the Friday Am and Sat afternoon format. I also know at the time of those races I was not the best runner in the 5k field. Just fortunate enough to have no pressure because of having raced and recovered. I don't like that everyone gets to sleep in now. but i think the change is worth trying.

first sentence should read: Doubling back from the 10k is an advantage over doubling back from the 1500/steeple

I love the idea of having the 10k Thursday night. When I was still around at IUP, I would tell Coach Fry that we should have the 10k on Thursday night, and the 5k for on Saturday.

That would promote faster times in the 5k and the 10k because no one would really have to "save" themselves as much. But I agree with you Helfrick, the 10k guys doubling in the 5k would have an advantage over the 1500/3k guys doubling.

Good luck to all competing this weekend (IUP especially).

-Jorge

The nod for the a pretty nice 10k/5k double has to go to Sean Stetler.. comes back from a decent 10k to battle it out in a kicker's race against the fresh legged Mitch Miller from the Haven. He made an overall slow 5k race interesting by making it a race at the end. Kudos to him to a good meet so far

I hate Kudos, what are they? A granola bar with some chocolate? A candy bar with some rice? WTF. get an identity.

They're awesome, that's all you need to know.

Sean Stetler and Ethan Rissle are awesome that's all you need to know also.

Ship is it! Nicely done, ladies and gentleman! Plenty of noteworthy performances and fast times and long distances from all!

What's the deal on the IUP girl, Outman. Her calves are bulging and the veins are popping out of them. If she is for real, she's got some amazing DNA.

maybe lots of drugs? or the fact she is what 28? oh well great athlete. It was a pleasure battling with ESU! They had a hell of a team. 10.41 1.9 wind from McCloskey? Damn, super fast. Hatch is no joke, 1:51!! flying. That 1500 was weird very physical and kinda a joke for the first 800. Proud of the Ship distance guys. They did work. I am going to toot our horn. Hope everyone from the PSAC light its up at nationals!!!!