........PSAC.......

Coach Russell,

It is understandable to want you athletes in the big meets to run fast times. But at what price? I agree with everything P on my ballSAC said. To put Getz, AJ Johnson, and Jed right behind Weiss? Seriously? Weiss is a sub-30 10k guy, none of your guys have gotten even close to that. Can they probably run sub-31? Get some provisionals? Absolutely...but for them to be 3,4, and 6 in that level of a meet is dumb. Have some integrity.

If they go out and get 3, 4, and 6th I will eat my words, but chances are they won't. They may go out and run some big PR's, but seriously? 3, 4, and 6th???? What did you put them in at 29:30? I know your guys have performed well at big meets this season, like up at Boston indoors, but what happened at PSAC's? AJ Johnson sh!t the bed in the 5k and ran 15:40...maybe you should re-think your racing strategy.

Sincerely,

A Concerned PSAC Fan

No one from the outside cares about seedings. If the coach wants to enter a fast time, let him. He has to get his athletes into the meet. Besides they may run that fast. They do belong there so if they are ranked first or 101st so what.

except when it's taking spots from legitimate runners who have real, quality, times that would makes these races.

haha hes right! remember a few weeks ago at bucknell when zondlo was put into the fast section of the steeple, a race that was won in 8:51, and he ran 10:03 getting last by about 20 secs! russell must have thought "what a great tune-up! hes ready for the penn relays 5k now!" i just dont know what goes on in the heads of those lock haven people.

Quit bitching and let's just see what happens in a few hours.

The Penn Relays website says "Relay teams and individuals should be entered only if they are capable of achieving the following performances in the Carnival". 10k standard is 29:45...Getz has hardly gotten within 2 minutes of that time this season, the other guys haven't even gotten within 2 minutes of that time...fair? You make the call.

Chris Clark went 13:58 in the 5k at Penn for 2nd place in the championship heat....that's BLAZING!!!!

welp, zondlo only ran 51 seconds slower than the entry standard... not too bad i guess.

awesome run by clark must feel great to break that 14 min barrier. its a shame he couldnt have got the win it must have been an awesome race to watch. nice work!

LOL, zondlo.

well it looks like weiss was a bit off from his big game....30:teens...but getz had a big PR. Congrats to him. My cap goes off to clark though for getting second and getting a PR as well! Good job PSAC! glad we had some good performances. Can't wait to see the show down at conferences!

When I saw what the haven guys were seeded at I about lost my lunch, and I mean that quite literally. We see haven do this time and time again. I reserved judgment bc I hadn't seen any of them race recently but I am not surprised at all at what I saw.

Congrats to Hilton, that was about the only respectable time of the weekend, I hope he can sneak into the NCAA meet. However, for all of those 10k guys (Getz, Jed, and A.J.) being put into the championship section is plain embarrassing for the conference. Sure getz set a huge pb but really he did not run that fast and was still well over a minute slow of the qualifying standard, almost a full lap. I don't care if all these guys set pb's there is plenty of other competition in almost every other meet they go to. I am aware of at least 6 guys in the conference that have already run a 5k completely drunk, and ran sub 15:20. And trust me there’s many more who are capable of it as well

Maybe Russell was just trying to go out with a bang but what he is teaching his student-athletes is horrible. Distance running has historically been on of the most natural and honest sports known to man. To throw all ethics away and teach kids that lying (obscenely) is ok and fair is just terrible. Many coaches I know hold their athletes to their performances and would never jeopardize a races integrity. If every coach did this, the championship of America would be one of the slowest races of the country.

I have absolutely nothing against the Lock Haven Athletes. They are just like all other competitive distance runners in the world, they love to compete. Aaron Russell needs to change his ways or it is going to come back and bite everyone in the PSAC.

On a brighter note congrats to all the guys (and girls) who got the job done this weekend.

Did you see how many runners in the college championship and olympic devolpment combined race went umder the 29:45 qualifying standard Three (3) yeah Three. Ease up with your unwarranted comments..Get a life

With his PSAC record 29.04 and breaking 14.00 this week...where does Clark rank among the best distance runners in PSAC history?

I am not a PSAC historian like some on this board.....but I have to think he's near the top.

Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference

Outdoor Track and Field

Men’s All-Time Records

Event

Record-Holder

University

Mark

Year

100 meters Gerald Mack Millersville 10.26 1996

200 meters

Eddie Arnold

Millersville

21.02

1991

400 meters

M. Scott Eisenhart

Kutztown

46.57

2002

800 meters

Sean Strauman

Indiana

1:48.57

2008

1500 meters

Carl Leonard

Edinboro

3:45.64

1992

Gary Bicking

Shippensburg

3:45.64

1980

3000 meter steeplechase

Greg Beardsley

Edinboro

8:39.20

1983

5000 meters

Mike Platt

Edinboro

13:56.01

1987

10000 meters

Brian Ferrari

California

29:03.20

1984

110 High Hurdles

Tony Woods

California

13.90

1980

400 Intermediate Hurdles

Bruce Tiller

Kutztown

50.44

1986

400 meter relay

Pettis, Davis,

Edinboro

40.21

1977

Hackley, Crunkleton

1600 meter relay Freidline, Schunk Indiana 3:11.25* 1977

Steele, Wooding

D. Bartolomucci, D. Patton

Kutztown

3:11.92

2003

M. Carroll, S. Eisenhart

Shuttle Hurdle Relay V. Redley, J. Gibbs Kutztown 59.70 2008

S. Harvey, T. Longmore

Shot Put

Paul Ferency

East Stroudsburg

59’ 2-1/4”

1978

Discus

Karl Bivins

Millersville

179’ 3”

1971

Javelin

Mark Bridge

Indiana

237’ 2”

2000

Hammer Mike Hernandez Slippery Rock 185' 10" 2000

Pole Vault

Paul Schmitt

Kutztown

17’ 0-3/4”

2000

Long Jump

Justin Collins

Kutztown

25' 4-3/4"

2002

Triple Jump

Bill Sharpe

West Chester

52’ 3-1/2” 1957

High Jump

Billy Wade

Edinboro

7’ 2”

1989

Decathlon

Bob Babiak

Indiana

7,292 points

1990

Clark ran a 29.03.1..... BREAKING THE RECORD...thanks for the quick correction. Just have a normal convo and quit trying to prove people wrong....People are f'n idiots on here.

The comments that have been made definitely are warranted, because the Haven guys were ranked 3, 4, and 6. They were actually 17, 26, and 30. Tell me how you can mess up your athletes seed time that much? The times that they were put in at were obviously blatant lies, that's just stupid to do. They could have gone and ran those times elsewhere, the only guy you can argue for is Getz. The other two guys did not belong in that race whatsoever, especially the AJ kid who ran 32:20 or something, I mean what's up with that?

All you guys are doing is beating down people, there should be more talk about how the fastest 10k time in the nation is a PSAC runner (Clark). The fasted 5k for women in the nation is a PSAC runner (Spence), and the TWO fastest times in the nation for the women's 10k are PSAC runners (Lanzel, Richard).

Clark has the 10k record and is only 2 seconds off the 5k record. Based on that he might be the best, esp if he gets a national championship this year.

my apologies, Jennings has the fastest time in the nation now in the 5k now. PSAC women are pretty good this year!