Anyway, the general rule is 2 x Half + about 10mins for your Full, right? 2 x 1:27:30 = 2:55 + 10mins, so 3:05 is certainly possible, if you've done the grunt work.
I'm jealous. Rome. I spent just 4 days there at a training camp prior to World Military XC in Turkey. It killed me, only having the late afternoons to tour the great city.
Cheers
Darren Skuja
DYRT Founder
35' on the snow packed roads.....i was somewhat reticent as my original injury showed up after a run on some icy roads.....but, apparently i survived this time.....just the usual mild stiffness......it was a glorious day......sunshine, blue sky....a tad chilly, but not too bad.....thanks, tpcb, for your support.....it is much appreciated......as for the trolling, i admit to finding a certain entertainment value in it......still wish some could be a bit more modest and accept that this thread is a tribute to all who have entered here, and not one person.....oh, well, history suggests that message may fall on deaf ears.....
Recovering from an injury almost always tries our patience. The art of "making haste slowly" needs to be applied. May your efforts be rewarded with further healing.
Facing another strenuous day in the sugarbush. Sort of a slowmotion steeplchase on snowshoes. Still dragging from yesterday's 7 hour rendition.
mopak, my apologies for the winter blahs and whining. The fiery foe you Victorians face diminishes our old man winter's cold to no more than mere aggravation.
O2: (cant help thinking of Jarre's "Oxygene" lp when i see your handle) here's an idea:
we all add to our sign off:
Cheers,
"Handle"
DYRT Supporter
Letsrun.com
today: just came back from my usual 20x400, 200 rec in Villa Pamphili park. Wind, mud, fatigue all contributed to milder pace. As Skuj said, this IS Grunt work trust me...
Out of town tmw, work related, will take advantage for an easy no-running day... maybe i'll stretch during the train ride...
the point could be wrote:
we all add to our sign off:
Cheers,
"Handle"
DYRT Supporter
Letsrun.com
Not a bad idea, but it really shouldn't be necessary. All that is needed is for a certain someone to get down off his self-constructed pedestal and join the rest of the great unwashed.
Ran 15 miles today in 1:42 and change. :)
O2, good to see you are back into it. Those early comeback runs are the hardest. Every little twinge appears to be a disaster about to happen. Stay tough, stay healthy.
Driske, the good news is we had cool rains the last 2 days and more to come. The nearly month long burns are now running out of power. Autumn promises cooler weather. Very pleasant running from now until perhaps next January. Our winter is nothing like yours. We sook when we get a minus 2 or 3 celsius in the mornings. Seldom a day that won't get at least to 10 deg C or about 50F. 300 days of sunshine per year, just need the rainfall to pick up to normal levels. The thought of months of freezing weather... too much for me too handle.
Yesterday's run was a fairly leisurely 1h 50m affair at 4pm. I headed into the Argyle forest, filled with kangaroos enjoying the cool damp conditions. 40 mins later I crossed the Kyneton rd and climbed a steep trail into the One Eye forest. The trails through here are nice and hilly. Picked it up to perhaps 4.30-40 per km. Came out onto a disused railway easement. Followed this back to town then across the creek and up to the lookout behind my place and a quick scramble home.
I do need to start structuring my running now as I am little more than a month from the start of my xc league.
r-est r-est r-est!
Good day DYRTers. My my, there really is several of us who are trying to get back into it, isn't there?
Today I did 1:40:30, very easy, in sunny, crisp weather. It consisted of 3 x 4 mile loops (33:38, 31:50, 31:01) + an extra 4mins out and back in order to get to what I believe is 20km. There were no hamstring twinges, because I wasn't trying to "gallop" the last loop. (That will have to wait.) The pf foot was very good until the last 3-4km, but it was OK, not bad.
Cheers
Skuj.
pf does seem to be reported as one of the dirtiest and most persistent injuries. All the best to you pulling out of it's grip.
Legs flat today. No run. Cramped at 2.2 miles on a slow easy run last night. I'm snow shoed out, for the moment.
A hard, fast mixed terrain mtn bike ride for 90mins yesterday. Today was just 25mins on the windtrainer plus 20 chins, 20 dips and 3x90sec planks. Also lots of rock hauling in the garden.
My guess is you don't have PF as that would nag you throughout your run. PF is not a condition that you wouldn't notice until the end of your run. You likely have some other less serious issue. Perhaps an arch strain or a bruise.
JonH wrote:
My guess is you don't have PF as that would nag you throughout your run. PF is not a condition that you wouldn't notice until the end of your run. You likely have some other less serious issue. Perhaps an arch strain or a bruise.
No one with PF is doing any running of any significant volume. Hell, walking is nearly impossible with PF. Anyone who claims to have run miles with PF is either brain-dead, lying, or mistaken. Trust me, I know. It's a bitch.
Every time I sense an olive branch, there's a knife hidden under it. "He was banned..." "He's a liar...." "He's wrong...." "He's an idiot......"
I have pf. I've been x-rayed, examined, etc. I have all of the symptoms. Go to the huge pf thread at letsrun and see how some are coping with it.
Time for a short run.......
Skuj,
THE PF SCORE
driske - sympathetic 1
mopak - neutral 0
JonH - informative 1
Reality checker - provocative -1
You are ahead by one.
OK, so the comment below was jabby and provocative but not mean. So what? Reply with data and specifics. Don't rekindle the fire of conflict. Maybe RC had it very bad and is kinda sensitive about it.
"Anyone who claims to have run miles with PF is either brain-dead, lying, or mistaken."
You know Reality checker must be a multiple handle user so dont take too seriously what is being said. But if you do, go point for point. Debate it.
yesterday and today:
bike commute to train station
business trip
bike commute home from train station
Believe me tpcb, it's all RD. And "it is what it is". :)
My run was excellent. It started very dubiously, with a very stiff left calf, but that loosened, and I was surprisingly "galloping" after a couple of miles. The first 4 mile loop was a shockingly fast (snicker snicker)32:22. At 40min I stopped on a local field, where I then did 4 gentle 100m-ish accels, with walkbacks, in the sunshine. It felt so good. (ie learning how to run fast again.) A 5min jog to home ended the session. I'm thrilled that I can do this the day after a 20k.
Cheers
Skuj.
OK, I'm jumping off the fence.
PF is a bitch, I've had it. I was able to train through it as do many people. Clearly it can vary in it's severity.
PF is Plantar Fasciitis. This means the Plantar Fascii is inflamed, obviously the degree of inflammation and damage can vary greatly.
I have found that the approach of ignoring provocative trolls is very helpful.
The good thing about this thread is that anumber of posters do post consistantly. This means it is easy to pick the trolls and be selective about your responses.
mopak wrote:
I have found that the approach of ignoring provocative trolls is very helpful.
The good thing about this thread is that anumber of posters do post consistantly. This means it is easy to pick the trolls and be selective about your responses.
Yeah, I'm struggling with this. Because in this particular case, there really is quite a back story, spanning well over two years, and three forums. But I'll try to limit myself to just reporting my running here, and responding to non-troll posts only. (But I'm not going away! Trolls cannot and must not win.)
14 miles in 1:36:50; including 3 on an ice/slush/mud winter thawing surface--quads were tired all week...
Right On, Mopak! Nailed it! Firmly decisionist without splatters of excess. Neat-O! That's the sort of post you could score the All Black's Haka to (but remember to ask for licensing if you do....)
today: Kids Athletics. Two things really worked apart from the usual fun obstacles (boxes, buckets, cones, tires) on the grass circuit: speed gates (the idea was to sprint to and from the gate - two white sticks side by side - and go through without touching it). The other, with a colleague, at the front and back of a single file, holding two ropes as wide as the lane ( i was at the front running backwards) to play with the concept of what a lane is. Kids loved it and unbelievably we were able to co-exists with most of the hurdlers and speed enthusiasts.
tomorrow: last long one before marathon on 03/22 - 2h30/2h45