HEPS 2012 INDOOR

By contrast, the Cornell women's only event win was in the 4x800, though they had multiple runner-up finishes.

BRF wrote:

BRF wrote:

In ICAAAA, Cornell's freshman Admirand wins (1:49.03) over Harvard's Darcy Wilson. Huber takes heptathlon for Cornell.

Cornell also won the 4x8, SP (Mozia) and HJ (Blair). Nice balance: individual track, multi, throw, jump, and relay.

Admirault won the 800m, was a part of the winning 4x8, and was a member of the placig 4x4 team. he was busy... i bet he'll sleep well on the ride home

also, Gemma Hartung placed in both the mile and 3000m.

C/M Runner wrote:

[Admirand] won the 800m, was a part of the winning 4x8, and was a member of the placig 4x4 team. he was busy... i bet he'll sleep well on the ride home

also, Gemma Hartung placed in both the mile and 3000m.

As I suspected, the relay personnel listed on the IC4A results were incorrect. (It didn't make sense to have *anyone*--even Admirand--try to run the 4x8 and come back in the 4x4, just a few minutes later.) Here's a quote from the Cornell folks:

"...the quartet of senior Chris Jakobson (1:54.1), sophomore Eric Bice (1:51.1), sophomore John Schilkowski (1:49.9) and Admirand (1:48.8) won the indoor 4X800 for the fourth time in the past 10 years with the nation's leading time [7:24.08] and a new school record.

"... In the 4X400, with the meet well in hand, the quartet of [senior Tom] Randall (49.7), [freshman Cisco] Olloqui (47.9), sophomore Mike Rabbitt (49.9) and [senior Brian] Freitas (48.2) ran 3:16.00 to score eighth place."

However, Admirand *did* run the 4x4 (but not the 4x8) in the heats on Day I, contributing a 47.4 leg to Cornell's 3:12.74.

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Also, you make a good point about Hartung--her running that double, and scoring in both, was obviously an essential part of Cornell's one-point win.

BRF wrote:

"... In the 4X400, with the meet well in hand, the quartet of [senior Tom] Randall (49.7), [freshman Cisco] Olloqui (47.9), sophomore Mike Rabbitt (49.9) and [senior Brian] Freitas (48.2) ran 3:16.00 to score eighth place."

However, Admirand *did* run the 4x4 (but not the 4x8) in the heats on Day I, contributing a 47.4 leg to Cornell's 3:12.74.

I guess IC4As just listed the prelim roster as the final roster then, if Admirand did run in the prelims. In most cases, the roster would be the same between prelims and finals.

Is it true that NCAA qualifiers are announced tomorrow? I seem to remember that from previous years...

They are announced tonight

and believe it or not there is a slim chance Princeton's DMR gets in

after filling out all events with 14 athletes (10 for relays)

Then adding one extra entry to each event

There are less than 10 athlete spots remaining.

Thus they could choosing to take Oregon DMR and Princeton DMR and still stay under the 284 athlete threshold

I thought 255 was the meet limit?

unless its changed since last year?

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/smu/sports/w-track/auto_pdf/2011IndoorTrackFieldHand.pdf

You could be right, I heard 255 from other people on Letsrun outside of this thread so who knows (although the 14 athletes/10 relays per event is consistent with what I have heard).

Men's NCAA bids are up: Reynolds (Penn), Mozia/Blair (Cornell), Callahan (mile) and Cabral (5,000) from Princeton, but not their DMR. No Columbia.

Maybe I missed something but... people actually care about the team score at IC4A/ECAC? Seems like nothing good can come from that mentality.

Ivy Observer wrote:

Maybe I missed something but... people actually care about the team score at IC4A/ECAC? Seems like nothing good can come from that mentality.

Yeah, I know: those meets have certainly become diluted over the last several years. I don't actually know, but assume that the meets don't qualify as official last-chance opportunities for NCAAs? In any case, the heat-and-final setup at IC4A/ECAC isn't necessarily favorable for someone trying to get a mark...

So you get Harvard's Heps champ in the weight throw at Columbia, on Friday night, but not throwing in the ECAC meet. And UConn--the 2011 champ in both meets--running men's and women's DMRs on Friday, then bringing (at least some of) those athletes back for the ECAC/IC4A meets, which certainly had to affect their chances to defend. And a ton of other members of ECAC/ICAAAA that either didn't compete there at all (e.g. Columbia), or only had partial squads.

For that matter, Cornell itself was without some of its top athletes, and I doubt that all the MIAs were victims of injury/illness. I can understand that it's not easy to get up for another multi-day meet, just a week after the intensity of Heps--particularly for those (the majority) who competed in multiple events there.

Anyway, this whole topic is another one of my rants. One thing that's marginalized t&f is (many) colleges' refusal to host (and/or try to win) scoring meets. The Heps itself is a bit unusual--it's rare for a team to go for less than its best there--but there are plenty of conference meets where many schools simply go for NCAA-qualifying opportunities, rather than maximizing their team scores.

[And forget having any scoring meets *before* conference.]

And then be completely surprised when t&f programs--which often seem not to care about actually winning track meets--fall victim to budget cuts.

Ten athletes are going to Boise!

Callahan

Cabral

Mozia

Reynolds

Blair

D'Agostino

Neer

Dartmouth DMR (D'Agostino, Supino, Krumpoch, Pappas)