CAS wrote:
My family wouldn't want him in jail. They'd require him to do something far more painful for him - attend and serve their church to make up for his lies and lack of values.
What f-ing good would that do?
CAS wrote:
My family wouldn't want him in jail. They'd require him to do something far more painful for him - attend and serve their church to make up for his lies and lack of values.
What f-ing good would that do?
No way he comes clean wrote:
Agree with 1 thru 5. Additionally,
6. Of his own volition, pay back all monies received (with interest)... such as SCA, The Times, U.S. Postal, Amaury Sport Organization, etc. etc... everyone he received a dime from he pays back voluntarily to the best of his calculations... even if it means he liquidates all of his real estate, all of his corporate ownership, all of his stocks and bonds, etc. and humbles himself into living in a modest 3 br / 1br 1000 sqft house to make it happen... that would be a significant indication that he's comprehended his wrongdoing
7. Public apology, via televised press conference and follow-on hand written personal letters, to all innocent parties he trampled... Emma O'Reilly, Besty Andreu, Filippo Simeoni, Christophe Bassons, Travis Tygart, etc. etc... the list is so long... I'd want to hear him say very explicitly something along the lines of "Emma, I called you a whore... you're not, you're a strong, courageous, beautiful woman and I am so sorry"; "Betsy, I called you a fat, ugly, bitch... you're not, you're a tenacious, principled human being and I respect you". A serious, personal, heartfelt apology to each and every person he attempted to destroy would be a good start.
Yes, yes, and YES!
Who knows? Just stating what I know my family would require
Win an 8th Tour de France
Actually Lance would be perfect for a religious conversion. He's a despicable, lying, vain, greedy, ruthless piece of sh\it who's now trying to gain sympathy by faking remorse. Fu\ck, he should run for Pope.
Moby wrote:
Actually Lance would be perfect for a religious conversion. He's a despicable, lying, vain, greedy, ruthless piece of sh who's now trying to gain sympathy by faking remorse. ck, he should run for Pope.
You do realize that 97% of the world is exactly like him don't you?
And by your post, that definitely includes you too.
For Lance Armstrong to earn my respect, he must stand his ground. He must continue to deny cheating in his competition. Admitting to cheating is like stopping in the middle of sex.
"Shoot himself in the head"...after denouncing the NRA, apologizing to Betsy, LeMond, Bassons, the whinging bike mechanic and all who donated to his faux charity. Thus leaving this lifetime as the greatest TV moment in history usurping the moon landing and OJ Simpson.
A few crocodile tears?
He's a cheater and he lies, there's nothing he can do. I will always give every athlete the benefit of the doubt but he lied and cheated and stole money.
I'm an honest person struggling to pay bills and worrying about retirement. I hate him.
He earned it when he won 7 consecutive TdF titles. He doesn't need to do anything more.
Allow Oprah to fist him
runn wrote:
I'm an honest person struggling to pay bills and worrying about retirement. I hate him.
Why would that make you hate him? Do you hate all successful people?
Don't fall for his crap. It's all about money.
Lance Armstrong and the cost-benefit analysis of confession
Don't be fooled: the only thing choking up Lance is the lawsuits he has to settle. But he'll recoup through Oprah's redemption
It is now absolutely clear that Lance Armstrong will make some form of admission in Thursday's interview with Oprah Winfrey to the dope-cheating that the Usada report called "the great heist sport has ever seen". The public relations strategy of drip-by-drip leaking has been expertly executed.
First, there was the New York Times' scoop about Armstrong's contacts with Usada to reduce his lifetime ban (disclosure: my sceptical response has proven 100% wrong). Then, we learned about the Oprah appearance, and it became ever harder to imagine what they would have to talk about for 90 minutes if Armstrong continued his career-long practice of stonewalling doping accusations and destroying those who spoke the truth. On Monday, the day his Oprah show was being recorded, Armstrong met with staff at the cancer charity he founded but recently resigned from, and rendered a tearful, "choked up" apology to his former Livestrong colleagues. And finally, we learn via CBS that Armstrong may even be willing to testify himself against fellow cyclists on doping charges.
In short, this now looks like a carefully choreographed, slow-release PR plan – likely managed by Armstrong's long-time agent Bill Stapleton – to perform a 180-degree turn on all previously held positions: belligerent denial, self-righteous indignation and bullying belittling of accusers. Instead, we have Lance Armstrong the penitent sinner: the weepy, choked-up prodigal son, who is finally coming clean and seeks redemption. As is well-established, an audience with Oprah achieves that almost instantaneously: I can see her right now, reaching out and taking his hand as he shakes with emotion and talks about the pain of living the false life we all made him lead.
And from redemption to rehabilitation. Armstrong will leverage his confession to the maximum to get his lifetime ban reduced, to four years, perhaps less. He'll be back before we know it: a slightly grizzled and more wrinkled version of himself, glad-handing and fist-bumping on the triathlon circuit, getting back to fundraising for the Livestrong Foundation, making faux-humble speeches for fat fees on the after-dinner circuit, mopping up some handy corporate sponsorships, reconnecting with his Washington power-broker contacts, and – older and wiser – maybe even running for office himself, as was once mooted.
But this only stacks up because, for the second half of his life, Armstrong needs not to be permanently exiled from American public life: to be a viable celebrity brand is all his future. The costs are significant: he will almost certainly have to settle with SCA Promotions, but they will probably take a lot less than the $11m that headlines their suit. The Sunday Times wants to recover $500,000 in damages, plus another $1m in costs; but they'll take less.
But here's the thing: Armstrong's net worth is estimated to exceed $100m. These sums sting, but they don't really hurt him. And next to his post-rehabilitation earnings potential, they're chump change.
Rest of the article here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/jan/15/lance-armstrong-cost-benefit-analysis-confessiondo the chicken dance lance
Jump naked on a huge pile of thumbtacks.
Apologize for hurting the Brojos feelings.
If Lance gets back on the dope and wins Kona then he'll have my respect
Why would that make you hate him? Do you hate all successful people?
He lied and cheated to be successful- I thought I made that clear. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when others blamed him without proof.
I watched many of his races because I admired him. I bought Livestrong gear because it was a great cause (still is) and I wanted to acknowledge a great man.
Now, I find out that he cheated (I can forgive that) and he lied about it for all these years. Why should I forgive that.
There are honest wealthy people, I admire them. There are wealthy criminals, I DO NOT admire them. I put him in that category.
By cheating he basically stole money. Was "everyone" doing it? Yep, but an honest person would not have.
Sorry, but I have no clue where you got the idea that I hate all successful people because they're successful. Kind of weird.
I consider myself successful- I'm doing what I love, I'm good at it (so I've been told my students, administration, parents and colleagues).
I know a lot of successful people- they didn't lie and cheat to get there. I admire them.
He's a criminal. He stole millions from hard-working people, he destroyed their careers, he threatened them with violence and what-not if they ratted him out. And to top it off he lied about it under oath. The guy is scum. He belongs in jail but he'll never go to jail. I hate him. I absolutely do, and it has nothing to do with cheating to win a bike race, it's all the other stuff he did on the side.