bigtool wrote:
What am I missing here?
Protocol. Privacy laws. Embarrassment.....and you personally, a clue.
bigtool wrote:
What am I missing here?
Protocol. Privacy laws. Embarrassment.....and you personally, a clue.
Even Prince Charles made a joke of the prank call and laughed.
fkgtr wrote:
bigtool wrote:What am I missing here?
Protocol. Privacy laws. Embarrassment.....and you personally, a clue.
wow you're a dick. I don't know what the protocol is for hospital personnel taking calls from relatives, but all she did was transfer the call. How is that a big deal?
bigtool wrote:
fkgtr wrote:Protocol. Privacy laws. Embarrassment.....and you personally, a clue.
wow you're a dick. I don't know what the protocol is for hospital personnel taking calls from relatives, but all she did was transfer the call. How is that a big deal?
Agreed.
funny if you are 12 wrote:
Some things are not obvious wrote:I'm having a hard time connecting the dots here. How exactly did this prank lead to this apparent suicide? Serious question - I'm not taking sides here. Perhaps I just do not understand the full nature of the prank.
You would think a reasonable person wouldn't kill themselves over what you may think is a trivial matter, but she may not have thought it as such. Since it is impossible to know how other people think about things, it would be wrong to judge them on your thoughts not being involved in the situation.
This isn't the first time a person has been blindsided by something they had no control over and killed themselves. It won't be the last.
I am not judging anyone here. I thought that I made that obvious in my first post. Instead I asked a simple and honest question.
So, I repeat it here. What exactly was the prank beyond she got fooled into thinking she was talking to the royals? Was that it? I am still having a hard time connecting these dots.
How is that a big deal?
While I think that this woman probably had mental issues which pre-date the Kate issue, I can understand how her involvement/culpability in the prank call might be a difficult burden when the subject of the prank is someone whose mother's death was very, very famously and directly caused due to harassment by the media.
GenericID wrote:
How is that a big deal?While I think that this woman probably had mental issues which pre-date the Kate issue, I can understand how her involvement/culpability in the prank call might be a difficult burden when the subject of the prank is someone whose mother's death was very, very famously and directly caused due to harassment by the media.
Is everyone just being deliberately obscure about this? i'm with some of the other posters in not understanding exactly what the prank was and why it caused such distress.
I assume you are referring to Princess Diana? What does that have to do with the prank? I guess I'm just dense.
idiot wind wrote:
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I guess I'm just dense
Thank you for admitting the obvious.
I guess I'm just dense.
Princess Diana (Prince William's mother) died in a car crash because she and Dodi Fayed were attempting to escape from the pack of media photographers and reporters who followed them 24 hours a day.
The two DJs who called might, in the mind of a mentally fragile person, represent harassment by the media of Prince William (Princess Diana's son), and her involvement in that harassment may have been too much to bear.
I don't understand why she killed herself either, I'm just suggesting a line of reasoning that she may have followed - the first one that popped into my head when I read about the incident.
As someone who was in London at the time of Diana's death it joins the dots, but you are looking for this woman's reason for suicide to make sense to you, whereas, in the real world, the reason only has to make sense to her.
I think it was the huge amount of international publicity that sent this woman over the edge. I can't imagine that sort of spotlight. But I do get your point. My uninformed guess is that she was mentally fragile to begin with.
bigtool wrote:
What exactly was the prank? All I'm seeing is that the DJs called her and said they were the Queen and the Prince. She put the call through to another nurse. The end. What am I missing here?
If you listened to the call, the female DJ's imitation of the Queen was so phony (it sounded like Dame Edna) that any Brit should have realized it was a crank call. With the nurse's name going public and all of her co-workers treating her as a laughingstock, she probably couldn't handle the humiliation. If that pushed her to suicide, well that's tragic, but nothing will happen to the DJs other than possibly being fired.
aloha warrior wrote:
bigtool wrote:What exactly was the prank? All I'm seeing is that the DJs called her and said they were the Queen and the Prince. She put the call through to another nurse. The end. What am I missing here?
If you listened to the call, the female DJ's imitation of the Queen was so phony (it sounded like Dame Edna) that any Brit should have realized it was a crank call. With the nurse's name going public and all of her co-workers treating her as a laughingstock, she probably couldn't handle the humiliation. If that pushed her to suicide, well that's tragic, but nothing will happen to the DJs other than possibly being fired.
When did the nurses name go public? Geez youre making a lot of wild conjectures here.
I pray to God that these two DJs have to deal with the untimely death of their loved ones soon.
dingdong wrote:
aloha warrior wrote:If you listened to the call, the female DJ's imitation of the Queen was so phony (it sounded like Dame Edna) that any Brit should have realized it was a crank call. With the nurse's name going public and all of her co-workers treating her as a laughingstock, she probably couldn't handle the humiliation. If that pushed her to suicide, well that's tragic, but nothing will happen to the DJs other than possibly being fired.
When did the nurses name go public? Geez youre making a lot of wild conjectures here.
abc, CBS, NBC National News Friday, December 7th, 2012, You ignorant fool.
UK wrote:
A prank among friends is one thing.
If you play a prank on a stranger, you lose control of the message and have no idea what the reaction will be.
I suspected there would be defenders of the DJ's right to be idiots.
I also suspect none of defenders will be from the hospital or the family of the deceased.
^
This. Okay, granted, she had to have been very fragile emotionally to take her life. And true, it does seem like a pretty extreme reaction.
But as said, in dealing with strangers, you don't know if someone is on the verge of suicide and what a person thinks is a harmless joke could cause a lot of pain, sending someone over the edge.
bfd. she was going to die anyways. if she wasn't mongol-white nobody would give a rats ass.
It's time to come clean. The nurse commiting suicide is itslef a hoax contrived to burden the coscience of the two DJs. To rebut the DJs need to pretend depression and jokingly unload a firearm on a street full of pedestrians, then take their own lives. Perhaps this just might lead to a reconsideration of this gilded relic of a monarchal system that they have.
dingdong wrote:
When did the nurses name go public? Geez youre making a lot of wild conjectures here.
The woman's name was Jacintha Saldanha, and her name has been in every single story about this "prank" call. Every single media outlet - TV, radio, newspaper, internet - all over the world has been identifying her personally since the story broke.
If you haven't been following the story, why are you commenting on this thread? Other than making yourself look stupid, what are you hoping to achieve here?
Some of the posters need to re-read their own posts before hitting submit.. what if one of the DJ's committed suicide now based on your derogatory comments towards them? Does that make you a villain?
Bottom line here, is this is an unbelievable tragedy. But the nurse committing suicide is a reaction out of all proportion to the supposed cause. We can only guess what other mental health or personal issues were at play for her before the call and what effect that may have had.
We have hundreds of interactions with other people every day, and anyone of these may be misconstrued by someone who is very close to their tipping point.. for suicide, cut someone off in traffic? someone mis-hears a private conversation? a joke xmas present?? all of these things happen - and could equally have caused the same events as this 'prank call'..
I'm sure the DJ's are equally distraught.
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