The fact that Rupp calls it "chat room" makes it pretty damn clear that he truly does not waste his time reading the garbage this is written on message boards. I, for one, am glad to see that he spends his time doing things (like training) rather than holed up on his computer reading LR type garbage.
Just because a person is paranoid doesn't mean someone is not out to get them.
Clifford Clavin, I'm surprised you haven't responded to this thread yet. What do you think?
Keith Stone wrote:
coach d wrote:Or as Renato once put it:
"Trying to discuss training theory with posters here is like discussing nuclear physics with elementary school children."
I think Brian Sell said it best when he said "if I want to know what some 18 minute 5Ker has to say about my training I'll ask my wife".
Keith Stone
You and Brian Sell, both go direct to m gallery of stupid people that doesn´t understand nothing at all about training.
The pall that thinks that the person to be a good coach needs to be a great runner performer it´s nothing but stupid and got training ignorance.
Besides you quote Renato and Renato wrote several times on this board that the good coach doesn´t need to have been a good runner. one 18min 5k runner might know more about training and coach distance than you and Brian togehter. So, please stop to be stupid.
Have you heard about Gersheler, Peter Coe, or Lydiard ? they were never been fast runners but they were great coaches.
Do you know what´s Renato Canova 5k pb ?
Please be a bit intelligent in your comments.
I would hazard a guess Brian Sell knows a little bit about distance training.
He wasn't talking about the expert and completely non-dodgy coaches from doping countries. He was talking about the 'regular' letsrun contributer.
It's actually quite an amusing and apt quote.
Antonio Cabral wrote:
Please be a bit intelligent in your comments.
Not possible for KS.
I take zero offense, after reading the whole paragraph. I took a lot more offense from what Ryan and Sara Hall said in the past. Ryan bashed the fans. Sara had the gall to say she's questioned why ppl cheer Ryan, because they have no idea what he does. No prob Sara- we won't cheer for him.
ttc wrote:
I take zero offense, after reading the whole paragraph. I took a lot more offense from what Ryan and Sara Hall said in the past. Ryan bashed the fans. Sara had the gall to say she's questioned why ppl cheer Ryan, because they have no idea what he does. No prob Sara- we won't cheer for him.
Yeah I kinda agree with with what Rupp and Hall are saying. But seriously, who really cares what either of those two complete bores think? They make Al Gore look like Fonzie
Actually I think Rupp is complimenting LetsRun posters. It implies that he can even decipher what the hell anyone is talking about on this board.
ryan foreman wrote:
Actually I think Rupp is complimenting LetsRun posters. It implies that he can even decipher what the hell anyone is talking about on this board.
Yea I was gonna say..hell Galen's talking about me for one.
He'd be right.
what do you think wrote:
Take a look at the following quote.
Running Times wrote:They don't see what I do, how hard I train, what I think about. "
Full article here:
http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=26377
well, yeah. No one sees any of Salazar's athletes train. He runs that thing like the CIA.
Salazar is shady, him and his friend Lance. Doesn't anyone find their relationship suspecting?
Rupp, however talented he may be, is not a good ambassador for the sport. He has the personality of a 13 year old. Really, if you had no prior knowledge of who he was he'd strike you as just plain weird.
Salazar in all the interviews I've seen and read, just comes off as over-protective and paranoid. Seriously? Why do you have to protect your runner from criticism like he's some 10year old whose self-esteem needs to be kept intact?
And of course anyone who points out the weirdness of his "methods" of coaching is just some anonymous buffoon to him who should just be quiet and let the very serious people like himself handle things.
People are entitled to their opinions.
Antonio Cabral wrote:
Keith Stone wrote:I think Brian Sell said it best when he said "if I want to know what some 18 minute 5Ker has to say about my training I'll ask my wife".
Keith Stone
You and Brian Sell, both go direct to m gallery of stupid people that doesn´t understand nothing at all about training.
The pall that thinks that the person to be a good coach needs to be a great runner performer it´s nothing but stupid and got training ignorance.
Besides you quote Renato and Renato wrote several times on this board that the good coach doesn´t need to have been a good runner. one 18min 5k runner might know more about training and coach distance than you and Brian togehter. So, please stop to be stupid.
Have you heard about Gersheler, Peter Coe, or Lydiard ? they were never been fast runners but they were great coaches.
Do you know what´s Renato Canova 5k pb ?
Please be a bit intelligent in your comments.
Precisely. Since when did one need to have succeeded individually in running to be a good coach? Lydiard, according to his biography, never ran faster than 2:40.
The more I learn about some of these American professional runners as people, the less interesting I find these guys. Rupp seems to have the personality of a wall. Tight knit groups are cool, but when you never step outside that and look for somebody else's opinion, you might not be hearing what you need to hear about yourself. Webb has the maturity of a teenager and doesn't seem to realize life can be enjoyable without winning everything. Ritz was ridiculously intense a few years ago, but he seems to have simmered down since he had kids. Lagat and that whole American citizen/running for Kenya during the Olympics was pretty shady. Solinsky revealed this real chip on his shoulder last season like he's got a legion of enemies. Don't get me started on Hall. Symmonds is taking this "promote the sport" thing a little far and making a fool of himself.
Ok now I'm just listing off things I don't like about some of our sport's best. While there is no denying that these guys work hard, they don't strike me as very relaxed or interesting fellows. And here I am alone on a Thursday night criticizing people on a message board. I'm no better.
Haile Gebresalassie. Now there is a man.
Yeah that was a pretty bad article. Just served to further my belief that Salazar and Rupp are douches. Salazar as always had to get in his jab at Solinsky which is pathetic. Rupp still seems like the sheltered 14 year old dweeb who has never grown up. I'm not sure why Salazar is so defensive anytime anybody makes any type of comment towards him. He seems to have some type of super ego god mentality thinking he is just the end all be all who knows all. Well guess what Saladbar, other people can have their own valid opinions too. Just yet more reasons why I despise the Salazar-Rupp group and will always root against them.
SmallTimeTC wrote:
I'm not sure why Salazar is so defensive anytime anybody makes any type of comment towards him. He seems to have some type of super ego god mentality thinking he is just the end all be all who knows all. Well guess what Saladbar, other people can have their own valid opinions too. Just yet more reasons why I despise the Salazar-Rupp group and will always root against them.
Probably why he gets along with Lance. Similar personalities you know.
crazy person wrote:
The more I learn about some of these American professional runners as people, the less interesting I find these guys. Rupp seems to have the personality of a wall. Tight knit groups are cool, but when you never step outside that and look for somebody else's opinion, you might not be hearing what you need to hear about yourself. Webb has the maturity of a teenager and doesn't seem to realize life can be enjoyable without winning everything. Ritz was ridiculously intense a few years ago, but he seems to have simmered down since he had kids. Lagat and that whole American citizen/running for Kenya during the Olympics was pretty shady. Solinsky revealed this real chip on his shoulder last season like he's got a legion of enemies. Don't get me started on Hall. Symmonds is taking this "promote the sport" thing a little far and making a fool of himself.
Ok now I'm just listing off things I don't like about some of our sport's best. While there is no denying that these guys work hard, they don't strike me as very relaxed or interesting fellows. And here I am alone on a Thursday night criticizing people on a message board. I'm no better.
Haile Gebresalassie. Now there is a man.
You hate America .
what do you think wrote:
Take a look at the following quote.
Running Times wrote:After 10 years, aren't you tired of hearing that you still haven't won the big one, or that you're Salazar's creation? Rupp bats away the questions with another grin. "Naw, I don't read any of that chat room stuff," he says. "Those guys don't know what they're talking about. They don't see what I do, how hard I train, what I think about. I have a pretty tight circle of friends and family, and as long as I'm solid with them, then I know I'm on the right track. That's all that matters."
What do you think he meant by the quote? Are those guys - the brojos or mboarders in general?
Full article here:
http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=26377
When I read the paragraph by Salazar stating.. "There's that message-board drumbeat that I'm pulling his strings and controlling his mind and who knows what else...vile, terrible, fantasy stuff." and it has made Galen stronger and what not-- first thing that came to mind was that he was talking about this board. Not sure what gave me that idea...
Maybe I've spent too much time on here...sigh?
crazy person wrote:
The more I learn about some of these American professional runners as people, the less interesting I find these guys. Rupp seems to have the personality of a wall. Tight knit groups are cool, but when you never step outside that and look for somebody else's opinion, you might not be hearing what you need to hear about yourself. Webb has the maturity of a teenager and doesn't seem to realize life can be enjoyable without winning everything. Ritz was ridiculously intense a few years ago, but he seems to have simmered down since he had kids. Lagat and that whole American citizen/running for Kenya during the Olympics was pretty shady. Solinsky revealed this real chip on his shoulder last season like he's got a legion of enemies. Don't get me started on Hall. Symmonds is taking this "promote the sport" thing a little far and making a fool of himself.
Ok now I'm just listing off things I don't like about some of our sport's best. While there is no denying that these guys work hard, they don't strike me as very relaxed or interesting fellows. And here I am alone on a Thursday night criticizing people on a message board. I'm no better.
Haile Gebresalassie. Now there is a man.
Don't you think ya gotta know individuals a bit more before you can make these calls? I mean how many people have you met and made assumptions concerning where their head was and after knowing them...ya find out you were dead wrong. Maybe its just me.
I'd say he's about spot on. It's a generalization regarding the skeptics and detractors, and as far as generalizations go, it's about dead on.
He's not slamming fans or supporters, just those who say he can't/won't do this or that because of x,y,z and then he does it. Or so and so is next in line to overthrow him for good and then they don't.