Jeff Gordon wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how the top tier guys like ElG can look like they are literally jogging a 60" quarter. Awesome to see.
"El G could eat a candy bar and run 63."
Jeff Gordon wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how the top tier guys like ElG can look like they are literally jogging a 60" quarter. Awesome to see.
"El G could eat a candy bar and run 63."
Nice run by the KENYAN, Lagat. Whatever happened to that dude?
the greatest part of that video was rui silva giving a big hug to lagat and lagat having this look of like dude get off me silva
what do you mean it doesn't make a difference?
toro wrote:
BS wrote:Didn't Abdi Bile have similar splits when he won his world champ title ?
Bile was about 2:04 at 800. Did close his last 800 in 1:46 going away from Cram.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8qf95CuubcRace starts at 6:20
closed in 1:47
You could also say ~1:47.3-1:47.5 first 700, then ~1:46.8-1:47.0 last 800. They ran 100 meters further in a faster or equal time in the same 1500. Quite impressive for a 1500.
EPO is a hell of a drug
bump for best 5000m race
Leaves me cold. Too pharmaceutical for my taste.
The best 1500m race ever was the one run at the Mexico City Olympics in 1968 between Jim Ryun and Kip Keino. Told that no one would run sub 3:40 since this was at 7500ft Jim Ryun ran smart. Kip Keino was being paced just sub 3:40 pace through halfway when the pacer dropped. Kip Keino picked up the pace and before Jim Ryun the current world record holder could realize, a gap had formed. As the story goes Kip Keino won gold by 20m in 3:34. Altitude conversion yields a 3:24. Add 17 seconds for a mile conversion about 3:41. The world record today is 3:43 something. Now that was the greatest 1500 ever.
Sidenote: Kip Keino had already run the 10,000, and a painful 5,000 being diagnosed with gallstones after. Throw in being stuck in traffic on the way to the race and jogging 2mi to the track, it was a miracle this event even happened
Agreed Keino '68 gets my vote. Actually if you factor in the suspected EPO use this is unremarkable. There's lots of more exciting 1500's. Really great 1500's have a back story (e.g both of Coe's victories esp Moscow).
My lifes regret is that Walker never met Bayi in Montreal.
74 commonwealth. world record plus 6 or 7 national records.
I agree with you. The 1974 Commonwealth 1500m was mind blowing. Bayi front running the entire race. First 800m in 1:51. Broke the world record running 3:32. Is there anyone running today who can front run a 3:32? Today, the best milers need three rabbits taking them to 1200m to run a shade faster than Bayi did in 1974!
Better Yet wrote:
The best 1500m race ever was the one run at the Mexico City Olympics in 1968 between Jim Ryun and Kip Keino. Told that no one would run sub 3:40 since this was at 7500ft Jim Ryun ran smart. Kip Keino was being paced just sub 3:40 pace through halfway when the pacer dropped. Kip Keino picked up the pace and before Jim Ryun the current world record holder could realize, a gap had formed. As the story goes Kip Keino won gold by 20m in 3:34. Altitude conversion yields a 3:24. Add 17 seconds for a mile conversion about 3:41. The world record today is 3:43 something. Now that was the greatest 1500 ever.
Sidenote: Kip Keino had already run the 10,000, and a painful 5,000 being diagnosed with gallstones after. Throw in being stuck in traffic on the way to the race and jogging 2mi to the track, it was a miracle this event even happened
keino is an altitude native, his 3:34 does not convert to 3:24 at sea level. he never even ran faster than 3:34 ever again. ryun on the other hand is a different story.
still a great race, shame it had to be at altitude though.
Most impressive 1500m - Hicham el Guerrouj, 1999 WC was probably the fittest anyone has ever been at the 1500m/mile distance - a 3:27, with heats, blowing kisses to the crowd the last 50m. Wow. The most impressive 5000m is a little tougher; maybe Kipchoge 2003 WC, or Shaheen when he beat El G in his debut. Or, alternatively, Bekele 2008 Oly's - 4:55 (?) last 2000m? Whatever it was, he obliterated the world over the last 5 laps, won by something like 4 seconds. Also Lagat's 12:59 closing in 51 was quite impressive.
observating wrote:keino is an altitude native, his 3:34 does not convert to 3:24 at sea level
no it doesn't
but it converts to well below 3'30 though
he never even ran faster than 3:34 ever again
err...
you do know he wanted to retire after mexico as he had got the gold he wanted & basically did so, running i believe 1 race in '69
he was persuaded to come back by the govt in '70 when an ole man & shadow of his '68 peak
still managed another gold/silver in '72...
has to be komen's world championship 5k where he went sub 4 for the middle 1600m.
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Komen was awesome. His 7:20 for 3km, and his 2 mile record of a couple of back to back sub 4s are incredible.
I love the video of El G's 1500 gold medal run for this reason: Watch the 3rd lap, he is smooooooooooth as silk, but he's running a 53!
My best 400 ever was a 53 and I was bustin' my nuggets.
Now don't get me wrong as I am a big El G fan, but I have to wonder if El G (and Lagat) are worrying about frozen pee samples from '04???
ventolin^3 wrote:
observating wrote:keino is an altitude native, his 3:34 does not convert to 3:24 at sea levelno it doesn't
but it converts to well below 3'30 though
he never even ran faster than 3:34 ever again
err...
you do know he wanted to retire after mexico as he had got the gold he wanted & basically did so, running i believe 1 race in '69
he was persuaded to come back by the govt in '70 when an ole man & shadow of his '68 peak
still managed another gold/silver in '72...
That 3:34 was his PR, so he didn't run faster before either. So you're telling me he never ran within 10 seconds of what his "converted PR" was?
Consider This wrote:That 3:34 was his PR, so he didn't run faster before either. So you're telling me he never ran within 10 seconds of what his "converted PR" was?
he ran a solo 3'53.1 mile on a likely poor dirt track in kisimu ( altitude ) in '67
that made him 2nd fastest miler ever at the time in year before mexico
he also held the 3k wr from '65 - '72 with 7'39 when he took a massive 6s off previous wr
also was 5k wr holder in '65