This type of free-market fundamentalism is on display in most third world countries. Sure, prices are lower, but so is quality. Also, inability to pay = no healthcare.
um no yah wrote:
In a free market, insurance wouldn't be used to pay for most medical expenses. As a result, healthcare costs would be dramatically lower than they are now under our government-enforced insurance monopoly.
hayek wrote:
This type of free-market fundamentalism is on display in most third world countries. Sure, prices are lower, but so is quality. Also, inability to pay = no healthcare.
Third world countries are not free market economies; they are totalitarian command economies. The cause of their failure is government controls.
Most third-world governments don't involve themselves in healthcare. It all comes down to supply and ability to pay. Demand is a given. A pristine free-market ideal doesn't exist, and it wouldn't work with healthcare anyway. It's not a serious solution either.quote]um no yah wrote:
hayek wrote:
This type of free-market fundamentalism is on display in most third world countries. Sure, prices are lower, but so is quality. Also, inability to pay = no healthcare.
Third world countries are not free market economies; they are totalitarian command economies. The cause of their failure is government controls.[/quote]
Care to provide any proof for that or is it just ideology? Last I checked high deductible plan people and low deductible plan people used the health care system about the same. And tell me how 100k/year dialsyis, 200k transplants or even 20k babies are getting cheaper because of the free market?
um no yah wrote:
aDSa wrote:There are a lot of issues with the free market system where everyone buys their own insurance
In a free market, insurance wouldn't be used to pay for most medical expenses. As a result, healthcare costs would be dramatically lower than they are now under our government-enforced insurance monopoly.
Easy...the poor wouldn't be getting dialysis, they would die on the streets. The rich would shop around.
aDSa wrote:
Care to provide any proof for that or is it just ideology? Last I checked high deductible plan people and low deductible plan people used the health care system about the same. And tell me how 100k/year dialsyis, 200k transplants or even 20k babies are getting cheaper because of the free market?
um no yah wrote:In a free market, insurance wouldn't be used to pay for most medical expenses. As a result, healthcare costs would be dramatically lower than they are now under our government-enforced insurance monopoly.
“Two world wars, three monstrous dictatorships—in Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, Red China—plus every lesser variant of devastating socialist experimentation in a global spread of brutality and despair, have not prompted modern intellectuals to question or revise their dogma. They still think that it is daring, idealistic and unconventional to denounce the rich. They still believe that money is the root of all evil—except government money, which is the solution to all problems.” —Ayn Rand
Well that would also solve most of the social security funding problems if we can make sure the poor people die before 67. Just have to make sure to stall on disability payments for as long as possible.
Mortimer wrote:
Easy...the poor wouldn't be getting dialysis, they would die on the streets. The rich would shop around.
aDSa wrote:Care to provide any proof for that or is it just ideology? Last I checked high deductible plan people and low deductible plan people used the health care system about the same. And tell me how 100k/year dialsyis, 200k transplants or even 20k babies are getting cheaper because of the free market?
statists from either side of the aisle are murderers
Because the country is screwed up in some ways. Nothing's perfect