Rank the ACC schools academically?

You have to specify whether you're talking about undergrad or grad... Georgia Tech is no higher than 7th or 8th for undergrad but would rank in the top 3 for graduate school - some of the best graduate engineering programs in the country

The Vick'ens wrote:

1) UVA

2) Clemson

3) Duke

4) NC State

5) BC

6) Ga Tech

7) Syracuse

8) Pitt

9) Maryland

10) UNC

11) Wake

12) FSU

13) Miami

14) Va Tech

Va Tech's the place to go if you like to kill animals, do drugs, and abuse women.

did you pull your list out of a hat?

the honors programs are better at UVA and UNC and have better/more accomplished than those at wake but wake doesn't have the bottom 25% riffraff that UVA and UNC have. wake also is a small private school and the other 2 are big state schools so it's really comparing apples to oranges. overall, it's close but UVA's top end puts it ahead of the other 2.

Why is clemson so low on most people's lists?

1. Duke

2. BC

3. UNC

4. UVA

5. Clemson

6. Wake Forest

7. Va Tech

8. Georgia Tech

9. FSU

10. Maryland

11. NC State

12. I can't remember

because it's a very average school. you are insane if you think that it's a better school than wake and ga tech. us news has it at #68. maryland is 55, miami 38, ga tech 36, BC 31, UNC 29, wake 25, UVA 25 and duke 10.

you could make a case that clemson is better than MD but the other 7 are way ahead of clemson.

Lots of ACC schools on the top public list (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public) and GaTech is #5 on best undergraduate engineering behind MIT, Stanford, Berkley, and CalTech. That ain't bad.

got to give it too duke. Second UNC/UVA tied... then wake..

i agree that you can't rank g-tech... cause its so different. It would be like comparing florida with wisconsin in track.... or too like completely different programs

Nike World HQ Shanghai wrote:

Correction for #42

World Rankings: #35 Duke, #42 North Carolina, #57 Pittsburgh

NOT Ranked: Maryland, Syracuse, Miami, Virgina Tech, North Caolina State, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Virginia, Boston College

Maryland is 39 on that list:

It seems like quite a few ACC schools specialize in engineering. Georgia Tech, NC State, Clemson, Virginia Tech. Wake and UNC aren't as strong as in other disciplines, and Duke and UVA are as strong as their other subjects.

Any way you slice it, the ACC from top to bottom represents, and is as good, on average, as the Big 10, which shows well on the other thread. Both edge out the PAC 12 on average, though the upper tier PAC 12 schools can hang with any conference.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Asker of all things ACC wrote:

My top 5 would be

1) Duke

2) Virginia

3) North Carolina

4) Maryland

5) Miami

Your first 3 are good. Wake Forest #4. Honestly I would rank Georgia Tech #5, although they are rather specialized. After that there is really a blanket that can be thrown over a bunch of schools. I'd put them in this order, although I wouldn't quibble with anybody who wanted a different one:

6. Maryland

7. Virginia Tech

8. NC State

9. Boston College

10. Miami

11. Florida State

12. Clemson (they stand out at the bottom, by a lot)

A lot of rankings, but honestly are any of the schools really that good? I'm familiar with Duke, but have heard very little about any of the others other than most are just your typical state university factories which you can find all over the country. Being from the Midwest and West, I have a hard time believing any of the ACC schools really stand out. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just haven't seen any evidence of strong school rankings.

So this is what you D1 hotshots feel like when you bash D3 running threads. The special education kids from my high school goes to the schools you guys are debating over.

Duke's peers are the lower Ivy League schools, Northwestern, Rice, etc.

UNC and UVA's peers are Berkeley, UCLA, and University of Michigan.

Wake Forest I guess is like University of Southern California level.

So yes, those are all good schools. The rest are just OK.

Shanghai 2011:

Top 101

#35 Duke

#39 Maryland

#42 North Carolina

#57 Pittsburgh

Not in the top 101

Syracuse, Miami, Virgina Tech, North Caolina State, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Virginia, Boston College

buffet rule not wrote:

The Vick'ens wrote:

1) UVA

2) Clemson

3) Duke

4) NC State

5) BC

6) Ga Tech

7) Syracuse

8) Pitt

9) Maryland

10) UNC

11) Wake

12) FSU

13) Miami

14) Va Tech

Va Tech's the place to go if you like to kill animals, do drugs, and abuse women.

did you pull your list out of a hat?

That is the most screwed up list I have ever seen. What are you basing this on, women's volleyball rankings or some other obscure measure? Certainly not academics.

I think you guys are underselling some of the state schools. In the last 5-10 years they have really been improving.

GT is one of the top 5 engineering schools in the nation and you all are ranking it BELOW state schools??

001 Harvard University

002 Stanford University

003 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)

004 University of California, Berkeley

005 University of Cambridge

006 California Institute of Technology

007 Princeton University

008 Columbia University

009 University of Chicago

010 University of Oxford

011 Yale University

012 University of California, Los Angeles

013 Cornell University

014 University of Pennsylvania

015 University of California, San Diego

016 University of Washington

017 University of California, San Francisco

018 The Johns Hopkins University

019 University of Wisconsin - Madison

020 University College London

021 The University of Tokyo

022 University of Michigan - Ann Arbor

023 Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich

024 The Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine

025 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

026 University of Toronto

027 Kyoto University

028 University of Minnesota, Twin Cities

029 New York University

030 Northwestern University

031 Washington University in St. Louis

032 University of Colorado at Boulder

033 Rockefeller University

034 University of California, Santa Barbara

035 Duke University

036 The University of Texas at Austin

037 University of British Columbia

038 The University of Manchester

039 University of Maryland, College Park

040 University of Paris Sud (Paris 11)

041 Pierre and Marie Curie University - Paris 6

042 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

043 University of Copenhagen

044 Karolinska Institute

045 Pennsylvania State University - University Park

046 University of Southern California

047 Technical University Munich

048 University of California, Davis

049 University of California, Irvine

050 Utrecht University

051 The University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas

052 Vanderbilt University

053 The University of Edinburgh

054 University of Munich

055 Carnegie Mellon University

056 University of Zurich

057 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

058 University of Pittsburgh

059 Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey - New Brunswick

060 University of Melbourne

061 Purdue University - West Lafayette

062 University of Heidelberg

063 The Ohio State University - Columbus

064 McGill University

065 Brown University

066 Leiden University

067 Uppsala University

068 King's College London

069 Ecole Normale Superieure - Paris

070 The Australian National University

071 University of Bristol

072 University of Florida

073 University of Geneva

074 University of Helsinki

075 University of Oslo

076 Boston University

077 Moscow State University

078 Arizona State University - Tempe

079 University of Utah

080 University of Arizona

081 Stockholm University

082 Indiana University Bloomington

083 Osaka University

084 University of Rochester

085 University of Nottingham

086 Aarhus University

087 The University of Queensland

088 University of Goettingen

089 Ghent University

090 McMaster University

091 University of Basel

092 Michigan State University

093 Rice University

094 Nagoya University

095 University of Bonn

096 University of Sydney

097 Case Western Reserve University

098 The University of Sheffield

099 Tohoku University

100 Texas A&M University - College Station

101 University of Frankfurt

Of course Duke would be #1. And of course Florida State would be at the very bottom. Fill the others in as you like.