Hey shoe fetish: S T F U. Gatlin has done nothing but look like he is 40 with that ugly ass face, and now I know why he looks puffy all the time.
Be gone, and take (testosterone) poster boy with you, since u "standing behind him". Watch out for the syringe since you're "back there"!
HOW OFTEN has Gatlin been tested since April 06? Why was he clean in those tests but dirty for some relay meet? Is he really injured but afrid to run and be tested?
Dude, this thread was dead on until your mistakes in your comments. Mercedes at NYC? That was over a decade ago; $40,000 to the winner, that was many moons ago. But your biggest error was NYRR's drug stand, they will not invite anyone if they have one drug strike. As for testing at the NYC Marathon, trust me they test the top runners. I can't count the times, when we had to adjust the finish line awards ceremony because an athlete had to be rushed to get tested.
We need to change the sports culture, not just in running but in every sport. Running is actually one of the toughest sports on drugs; have you ever read the drug policies for the NFL, NBA and MLB? Justin was/is the co-WR holder and USATF took a stand (it might have been slow in some eyes, but with the fear of lawsuits...); What has MLB really done about Barry Bonds?
Overall, we need to stop looking for short cuts, running is a blue collar sport. You work your butt off and get results, that's the reality. I'm sick of seeing articles about how to lose 15 lbs in 3 weeks, how to PR at 15 miles per week....Our old fashion heros (Pre, Bob Hayes, Edwin Moses, Bill Rogers, JBS, Ashford), who we should never forget, were focused with their goals; they just put their heads down and trained. I would love to see one of the large companies that support running to launch a campaign to showcase the old school athletes; not the drug, short cut takers.
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You know what I'd like? Just once, when one of these chumps gets caught, instead of the excuses and insistences that they never "knowingly" took any banned substnces, I'd love to hear them say, "Yes, I'm guilty as charged. I have no excuse, I just gambled & lost."
Never gonna happen, but you can always dream.
Wrong, Kellie White did, and I have great respect for her in doing so.
Brookyln, you are dead on right. This weeks edition of RW is a new low, but the bottom line is from the top down, the shoe companies, USATF, Runners World, our sport is sold on the short cut.
USATF has a duty to get back the $100K it gave Gaitlin for winning the 100 at USA's, we should test every single athlete at the meet.
I suspect there are plenty of "miracle" stories in the distance events who are drugs and will not get caught, because we are so focused on the sprints. I do give USATF some props for getting Gaitlin though, at least they showed that they are willing to go after the best.
It sad that the sport of blue collar busters, like pre is being tainted by these jackass, but I am sad to say that there are mid level US (825 steeple, 340 1500 types) using this shit and getting away with it.
Let us not forget that coaches like Dick Brown have at best a mixed history, we do have our own Trevor Grahams.
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HOW OFTEN has Gatlin been tested since April 06? Why was he clean in those tests but dirty for some relay meet? Is he really injured but afrid to run and be tested?
He has been tested since then. Sice it has taken so long for this to come out maybe it will take time for those tests too. if he took drugs in april he was not clean in may or june.
And Barry Bonds never tested positive that is why the MLB has done nothing. You cannot convict someone in the court of public opinion.
oh well.. this didn't come at a terrible time for him. he still has a few months before the NFL season starts. i'm sure he can find employment there. even at the minimum wage he would come close to making as much as he did on the track i'd think.
Has anyone posted this Link yet? Graham is cying set-up from within his own camp...
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,19961765-5001023,00.html
John Capel didn't last very long with the Bears and the Chiefs between bong hits. Didn't even get to play in an exhibition game. I doubt the NFL wants to be known as a sanctuary for sprinters who can't kept the needle out of their ass. The NFL has enough drug problems without Gatlin leaving a big stain on the turf.
another thing that sucks...
how about the guy who finished one spot off the olympic roster because gatlin's juiced up ass made the team. man thats gotta be the worst feeling ever. someone give that guy 4 years of his life back...but then again, he was probably on roids too.
ive met justin gatlin more than once, he is a kool guy. i doubt he was juicing, even if he was, what bout asafa powell, they are just as fast as each other right? but it doesnt matter, once those reports come out, yall think everyone is on something. mad bc you arent as fast as them or just not as talented, or jus plain lazy a** ppls.
I highly doubt this. He makes over 100k (Per race) every time he touches a track in Europe. That's not even counting his shoe contract which is in the millions per year. Top sprinters are making millions a year. The sad thing about it is that top shoe companies may have a hand in it because they only give the big money to the athletes who are "suspect."
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satch ,x wrote:HOW OFTEN has Gatlin been tested since April 06? Why was he clean in those tests but dirty for some relay meet? Is he really injured but afrid to run and be tested?
He has been tested since then. Sice it has taken so long for this to come out maybe it will take time for those tests too. if he took drugs in april he was not clean in may or june.
And Barry Bonds never tested positive that is why the MLB has done nothing. You cannot convict someone in the court of public opinion.
Lets not forget about masking agents. They can be as advanced as the drugs themselves. Perhaps Gatlin just screwed up his dose of masking agents before that one meet.
The drug-use denial statements of Marion Jones and Justin Gatlin are so similar because they were most likely both written by the same person, Coach Trevor Graham.
Right now Marion is probably wishing she stayed with Ben Johnson's former coach, Charlie Francis. Charlie was much better at juicing his athletes. Only one of Charlie’s elite athletes was caught for illegal drug use. Trevor now has six of his elite athletes found guilty of using PEDs (performance enhancing drugs). This includes: both of Marion’s former husbands C.J. Hunter and Tim Montgomery, Justin Gatlin, and Michelle Collins. Last week nutritionist Angel Heredia testified before a grand jury that he was the supplier of PEDs to Trevor Graham athlete’s and that Marion Jones, Antonio Pettigrew, Garfield Ellenwood and Duane Ross were also taking PEDs. Angel also testified that he had no knowledge of PED use by three of Trevor’s other top athletes: Justin Gatlin, Shawn Crawford and Lisa Barber.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Shawn Crawford and Lisa Barber are likely candidates to have positive PED tests in the near future. Trevor’s Sprint Capital USA organization should be more aptly named Steroid Capital USA. Given everything that has occurred, if Crawford and Barber are clean, why are they staying with Trevor?
Marion is the worst of the bunch. I've read that she refused to take a drug test while still in high school and as a result couldn’t continue to compete in HS track. Apparently she then switched to basketball, which she played in college. Several people (Victor Conte founder of Balco, C.J.Hunter, Angel Heredia…) have stated under oath to grand juries that they have 1st hand knowledge of Marion taking PEDs and have provided documentation to back up their claims. So when is the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) going to wake up and hold a hearing about these serious allegations? It would seem the evidence these unrelated accusers have on Marion is very convincing. The USADA has very little creditability while Marion is out there winning big races and declaring her innocence. Perhaps we need new leadership and USADA and at USATF. Marion is now making a joke of the sport of T&F.
Finally, while it is possible that every men’s world track record and every men’s road record might be legitimate, it is widely acknowledged that all of the women's world track records, from 100m thru 10,000m are juiced. They were set by: Florence Joyner-US, Marita Koch-Germany, Jarmila Kratochvilova-TCH, Yunxia Qu-China, Svetlana Masterkova-Russia, Junxia Wang-China, and Elvan Abeylegesse-Turkey – all suspected or known drugies. But thanks to Paula Radcliffe-Great Britain and Elana Meyer-South Africa, probably all of the women's world road-race records are clean.
Is it possible hat maybe in a few years there wont be as big of a drug problem now that many athletes are being caught and that the kids who look up to these guys experience the dissappointment of your hero being a cheater and would never want to put any1 through that same experience. I know after seeing how pissed off every one is off of an american hero being caught and named a cheat that it gives me another reason not to want to do it.
so now we know that gatlin didn't have a case of pussytitis, but rather roiditis. least we can settle the debate now, asafa powell is the fastest... until he tests positve...
If Gatlin is guilty then how can he have helped the sport? Guilty or not, Gatlin is not helping the sport now even being acused of cheating. No wonder NASCAR is so big even though the drivers are non-athletes and the fans generally white trash red neck idiots.
sad day for track and field. It does make me wonder who else is on it...all around the board, from sprinters to throwers to jumpers to distance runners (maybe why we dominate all the other events is because everyone is juiced but we have sucked internationally in the distance events because everyone is clean). It doesn't seem to matter about how "classy" a person is or "nice" or "humble" it just makes me shake my head and wonder who else?!?!?
Your willingness to put complete faith in the testers and testing procedures is amazing.
Lagat's "positive" was plainly a grievous "error." Landis' "positive" is based on an arbitrary ratio. Yet you guys are willing to string a guy up based on the results of a test you know nothing about.
No wonder religion is a booming industry in this country. Ever hear the term "healthy skepticism?"
If you've followed the saga of the rhEPO test at all, you know how hard it is to distinguish an exogenous substance from an endogenous one.
So before you start baying insipid condemnations like a bunch of Dick Pound wannabes, learn something about the testing and let Gatlin go through the process.
Yes, admitting you are a drug cheat after you have evidence against you is a VERY admirable quality....i'll relay this kind of mindset and lesson onto my kids...