Ran the race yesterday- conditions were great- slight tailwind at the start- and overcast for most of the race. Brian Sell was behind by about 50 meters just before 9 miles- didn\'t see what transpired after that since I was running the race. As for Max King- he had a great race. Came in confident and humble. Not only a great runner, but a great person as well. This guy needs a contract!
Congrats to Ed Baker on his 1:05 half-mara PR! Knowing Ed he probably did it off 50-60M weeks.
Team Nebraska Brooks results:
Levi Ashley, 1:09:22 (includes 2 minutes in port-0-can for gastric distress)
Tom Nichols, 1:09:36 (Tom pr'd at every distance above 5K, including a :47 pr at 10K split)
James McGown, 1:09:43 (James ran even splits the entire distance)
Shannon Stenger, 1:12:38 (Nebraska Assoc. AADP rep, ran even splits as well)
Jason Brindle, 1:13:32
Dustin Llewellyn, 1:13:35
Dave Sutej, 1:21:19
Im proud of the mates, especially encouraged by our younger members performances (Ashley & Nichols are both 23).
Thanks to the organizers for a great weekend!
Giddyup!
Will Lindgren
President, Team Nebraska Brooks
Based on what I saw before the 1/2 marathon guys split off at 8.5 miles, Nicodemus was well out front, and Sell laid a little back with Hartmann and 1-2 others in front of him. At around 9 miles, Nicodemus looked good and had a big gap, and Sell was really motoring. Hartmann and King also looked very strong, but Sell was making a move. Sell afterwards seemed satisfied with a PR, but not surprised by the time, based on a very short conversation.
He doesn't train either.
Interesting to note that Hanson had Sell's PR updated on there website within 2 hours after the race. I guess they are really proud if it. As they should be.
According to the Mercier Scoring Tables:
1:02:39 half equates to a 2:11:55 marathon
a 58:55 half equates to a 2:04:05 marathon
except there is an extra 13.1 miles for something to go wrong.
Sell is to much of a class guy to complain, but he went off course twice and would have run about 15-20 seconds faster.
MM42K wrote:
This guy needs a contract!
2:30 marathoners want to run the Olympic Trials and Max King needs a contract?
You get to the Olympic Trials and shoe companies give you contracts after you've done something, not before.
Can I ask why he went off course? Not to fault Brian, but more to question why he was allowed to go off course? Haven't the Houston organizers done this race before? Was it a new course?
1. The turn around just before 9 miles had a sign and someone standing in front of the sign. Brian ran around the sign without the marshall saying a word. He was supposed to run in front of the sign which added about 10 yards each direction.
2. When entering back into town a police officer was waving pedestrions straight ahead to cross RUSK. Brian thought that the officer was waving to him so he also went straight. The officer screamed at Brian after he was about 30 meters up the road. Brian re traced his steps and was on his way.
Both were honest mistakes and didn't effect the race in any way. However Brian would have been about 20 seconds faster.
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RE: Houston Half Results 1/16/2006 10:34AM - in reply to mike. l Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He doesn't train either.
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I think he does - he moved to Bend a few years ago
Texas screw up wrote:
Both were honest mistakes and didn't effect the race in any way. However Brian would have been about 20 seconds faster.
Of course precedent has been established and Houston will pay severley for this mistake. Plan on USATF holding them up for another 4-5 grand next year.
Are you kidding? It's more like 50-60 mile DAYS.
This happened last year too. There was a chase pack behind Brown and others and the second pack of guys were not told to turn by the sign. They went about 20-30 meters past and finally someone told them to turn around. In the meantime they lost a few places and some seconds. They need to look at this turn around and make sure it does not happen again. As for the cop thing man don't follow a cop unless he is on a motorcycle. [quote]Texas screw up wrote:
1. The turn around just before 9 miles had a sign and someone standing in front of the sign. Brian ran around the sign without the marshall saying a word. He was supposed to run in front of the sign which added about 10 yards each direction.
Just a thought, but aren't the runners responsible for knowing the course? Aren't there course tours? Are we training a bunch of idiot athletes that have to be led by a leash?
When your in the middle of a half marathon/marathon you aren't thinking about which street to turn on. You need direction. You are generally rather tired, and unable to think clearly.
Runners aren't as smart as those football players. Them be the smart athletes...
No, I don't think that is correct. That is why there are course monitors. It is the responsibility of the race directors to have a course that is easy to follow. These were minor problems, but you can't expect every athlete to be able to study the course beforehand. Especially for a race that is 13.1 miles long.
Phish Pfan wrote:
Just a thought, but aren't the runners responsible for knowing the course? Aren't there course tours? Are we training a bunch of idiot athletes that have to be led by a leash?
Agreed that it is easy to zone out in a race.
But there were warning signs that the turn-around was coming up, for about a half mile before the turn. There were about 20 orange pylons marking the turn itself. And there was a 10 foot tall light-up highway sign that said "HALF MARATHON TURN AROUND" or something like that, in foot tall letters.
Actually that is correct. It is the responsibility of the athletes to know the course. The same thing happened at New Haven a few years ago. A group of runners behind the lead pack went straight into oncoming traffic rather than take the marked right hand turn where traffic was blocked off. They were found in the wrong by the referee and jury of appeals. The race director gave them their prize money based on their position in the race at the time. Unusually generous offer. This situation (Houston) sounds like the athletes were totally at fault, but like New Haven it will be thrown in their face at a future time.
I ran the marathon on Sunday and that turnaround didnt surprise me at all that someone missed it. There were no huge signs, there were just a few officals holding up typical posterboards sign cards that read "TURNAROUND HALF MARATHON AHEAD". Its very easy if you had your eyes set ahead and not looking around to very well easily have missed it.
... but didnt Sell run this last year? He shouldve known better.