New Designer Steroid Found

link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/front_page/4226893.stm

There's probably a bunch of these out there. I hope they find more.

What do you think the cost of somthing like this is? Maybe a 100k? Why not just get one designed specifically for you? Maybe out of the scope of some runners, but baseball players, football players etc.... 100k gets you your own personlized steriod and 2 year supply...Come one their are lots of chemist who would do this for 100k I mean it can't be more than a couple months work and maybe 15k in supplies. Days for Dupont, nights for Da players.

The cost to the athlete is a lot, but the cost to a weasel like Victor Conte isn't much at all. I believe I read I article stating that he only paid $450 for his entire supply of "The Cream" and "The Clear".

I agree with STL, it doesn't cost that much to design new roids.

very interesting that it was seized at the US/Canadian border by Canadians. wonder where in Canada that was going?

chuck d wrote:

very interesting that it was seized at the US/Canadian border by Canadians. wonder where in Canada that was going?

or where in the u.s.a. was it going?

Canadian Custom agents seized it, so it was going in. But where in the US was it coming from? Was it carried on a personal vehicle, if so, who was it?

yeah, this makes for some interesting speculation. more info (like which border crossing) will make this even juicier.

There are two kinds of runners, dopers and losers.

The testing agencies will never keep up. We need to reframe the way we look at athletes and athletics in terms of drugs.

this article says the seizure was made in july and a re-testing of samples suggests that it hadn't made it into "general circulation yet." apparently an anonymous email tipped them off.

this article says that although the creator likely thought the drug would not be detectable, it still had the markers of a steroid and likely would have been detected by existing tests. either way, it's a good sign.

Here is a link with a few more details from Sports Illustrated: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/more/02/01/steroid.ap/index.html

Dopers hurt the sport. They are liars, frauds, cheaters, and thieves. They not only cheat themselves, they cheat everyone they are around. They are the lowest of all athletes.

How can they say that they are ahead of the dopers when the only reason they caught this drug was through another whistle blower?

A little bird told me it was found entering from the ground into BC (at a vehicle check point).

Son of a bitch!

"The aliens must have injected us when they gave us that anal probe"

They touted the finding as a pre-emptive victory against drug cheats.

"Probably in this case we are ahead of the dopers," Rabin said in a conference call from WADA headquarters in Montreal. "This shows to the dopers how serious we are."

How is WADA claiming this as a victory? The sample was handed to them, a la BALCO.

So it's a victory when someone hands them an unknown steroid that would likely have been detectable anyway?

There will always be custom built steroids, "Designer steroids," that will be undectable unless the WADA comes up with some better tests and stops relying on narcs handing in random samples.

Whoops, I got the facts confused, I guess the mounties found the drug and it was not turned in by narcs.

Still, the sentiment remains: Is the WADA entirely dependant on stumbling upon samples?

They need a better way of detecting new drugs aside from amature smugglers and narcs.

STL_Runner wrote:

The cost to the athlete is a lot, but the cost to a weasel like Victor Conte isn't much at all. I believe I read I article stating that he only paid $450 for his entire supply of "The Cream" and "The Clear".

When you look at the total cost of producing a new steroid, I seriously doubt Conte only paid $450. He probably made multiple different versions of testosterone and tested each of them for their ability to produce a negative result on a drug test (Although I bet he did no tests to make sure that these new drugs were actually safe). Assuming he did all the lab work himself, which he probably didn't, the different steps involved in synthesizing and testing new forms of testosterone could easily run into the thousands if not tens of thousands. Regardless of what Conte says, I would be very surprised if $450 worth of testoterone straight off the shelf suitable would be equivalent to all of the THG he produced.