• Was FRAMED
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 3:30PM - in reply to Balding Eagle
      • Was FRAMED
      • Likely a Russian joker switched the test sample in via a mousehole.
    • Contamination Ouch
    • All the spin, comes here to fallow
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 3:34PM - in reply to Rusada
      • All the spin, comes here to fallow
      • Nice try by so-called US "Anti" doping agency, framing a poor Zambian with a harmless non-Western heart medication, just to keep appearances of effect. While post-dated retroactive "TUEs" for bogus conditions make doping legalized and pour out by the hordes to protect the true elites.
    • Kvothe
      registered
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 3:38PM - in reply to Balding Eagle
      • Kvothe
        registered
      • Does it really take 11 months to get the results of a drug test! This guy is only going to serve a 3year 3 month suspension. Cheating athletes should serve the full 4 years. In addition, it seems like once an athlete knows they're going to get busted, they can just keep on cheating and defrauding athletes playing fair for months without it counting for another suspension. Two failed tests, he should be banned for life. He's run 1:02:24/2:11:35 btw. But those times shouldn't count as he likely only achieved them with peds.
    • Dirty NAZ
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 3:45PM - in reply to Contamination Ouch
      • Dirty NAZ
      • Contamination Ouch wrote:

        Coached by Ben Rosario for several years.

        I'm sure they will try to separate the connection but Rosario was coaching him in Rio. One of the original members of NAZ.
    • not my real name
      registered
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 8:18PM - in reply to Balding Eagle
      • not my real name
        registered
      • I would normally agree with the "idiot" comment...but I've known Jordan for many years now and I just don't see him using something like this. I could be totally wrong but doesn't make sense to use something that's not very "high octane," so to speak. Especially since it's well known that meldonium stays in your system for quite a long time.

        If he really wanted to cheat, he could have been using epo for years now, yet he's never been popped for that. He's also done a heavy number of races that test, and finishing in testable positions, so it's not like he's ducking testing. Since he's been OOC tested, one would think epo would have shown up, if he were using real juice. I know he's raced many times in Mex, so it's not like he couldn't have obtained epo if he really wanted to. I just don't see it adding up but I could be wrong. Just not your typical doper profile, not by a long shot.

        as far as rosario goes, do you really expect every coach to be a fly on the wall with every single one of their athletes? gimme a break, pretty damn sure ben would never condone this sort of thing.
    • Blitzkrieg BLITZKRIEG
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 8:21PM - in reply to FFF
      • Blitzkrieg BLITZKRIEG
      • FFF wrote:

        An African, doping. I never would have thought.

        Who knew that's why they are faster than us.
    • Balding Eagle
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 8:34PM - in reply to not my real name
      • Balding Eagle
      • not my real name wrote:

        I would normally agree with the "idiot" comment...but I've known Jordan for many years now and I just don't see him using something like this. I could be totally wrong but doesn't make sense to use something that's not very "high octane," so to speak. Especially since it's well known that meldonium stays in your system for quite a long time.

        If he really wanted to cheat, he could have been using epo for years now, yet he's never been popped for that. He's also done a heavy number of races that test, and finishing in testable positions, so it's not like he's ducking testing. Since he's been OOC tested, one would think epo would have shown up, if he were using real juice. I know he's raced many times in Mex, so it's not like he couldn't have obtained epo if he really wanted to. I just don't see it adding up but I could be wrong. Just not your typical doper profile, not by a long shot.

        as far as rosario goes, do you really expect every coach to be a fly on the wall with every single one of their athletes? gimme a break, pretty damn sure ben would never condone this sort of thing.

        The usual "he's such a great guy, I don't think he was doping" defense. BS. If he got 4 years, you bet your ass that he did it.
    • M. Sharapova
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 8:38PM - in reply to Balding Eagle
      • M. Sharapova
      • He did what...take a previously legal medication that has never been shown to actually improve performance?
    • Jonathan Gault
      LRC guru
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 8:44PM - in reply to Kvothe
      • Jonathan Gault
        LRC guru
      • Kvothe wrote:

        Does it really take 11 months to get the results of a drug test! This guy is only going to serve a 3year 3 month suspension. Cheating athletes should serve the full 4 years. In addition, it seems like once an athlete knows they're going to get busted, they can just keep on cheating and defrauding athletes playing fair for months without it counting for another suspension. Two failed tests, he should be banned for life. He's run 1:02:24/2:11:35 btw. But those times shouldn't count as he likely only achieved them with peds.

        Would be nice to have an explanation from USADA why it took 11 months to announce this. I understand that athletes have a right to appeal, etc., but they didn't make any mention of that in the release. If that's why this took so long, say that. And if not...then why did this take so long to come out?
    • Balding Eagle
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 8:52PM - in reply to Jonathan Gault
      • Balding Eagle
      • Jonathan Gault wrote:

        Kvothe wrote:

        Does it really take 11 months to get the results of a drug test! This guy is only going to serve a 3year 3 month suspension. Cheating athletes should serve the full 4 years. In addition, it seems like once an athlete knows they're going to get busted, they can just keep on cheating and defrauding athletes playing fair for months without it counting for another suspension. Two failed tests, he should be banned for life. He's run 1:02:24/2:11:35 btw. But those times shouldn't count as he likely only achieved them with peds.

        Would be nice to have an explanation from USADA why it took 11 months to announce this. I understand that athletes have a right to appeal, etc., but they didn't make any mention of that in the release. If that's why this took so long, say that. And if not...then why did this take so long to come out?

        Probably because USADA was trying to pop whoever provided Jordan with the meldonium and/or pop other athletes using it.
    • ktv
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 9:14PM - in reply to jdsd
      • ktv
      • jdsd wrote:

        Is this the beginning of the fall of Flagstaff???

        Not yet. Wait until September.
    • harry wales
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 9:50PM - in reply to M. Sharapova
      • harry wales
      • M. Sharapova wrote:

        He did what...take a previously legal medication that has never been shown to actually improve performance?

        Except in Russian soldiers in Afghanistan.
    • No Comment ?
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 10:15PM - in reply to Balding Eagle
      • No Comment ?
      • Any comment from Ben Rosario?
        No comment screams of guilt.

        Doesn't Josh Cox represent all of Ben's crew? The same agent that represents Desi Linden.

        Why when a certain Italian Agent has a guilty athlete we assume they are all guilty.
    • Fila historian
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 10:39PM - in reply to No Comment ?
      • Fila historian
      • Josh Cox ran for Dr. Rosa back with the Fila discovery program
    • notanalogous
      • RE: In actual doping news Jordan Chipangama BANNED for 4 years 5/15/2018 10:42PM - in reply to No Comment ?
      • notanalogous
      • No Comment ? wrote:

        Any comment from Ben Rosario?
        No comment screams of guilt.

        Doesn't Josh Cox represent all of Ben's crew? The same agent that represents Desi Linden.

        Why when a certain Italian Agent has a guilty athlete we assume they are all guilty.

        Because that Italian agent has now had several athletes popped for EPO. Cox has not. That’s the (obvious) difference.