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SloughRunner wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:
Even the video is a joke and it's clear it is RY.

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If Rob Young made a contribution to get people running parkruns etc: good. It doesn't mean that the non-devotees cannot have a critical look at some of the claims that have been made by him or his team.

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Tom Crockford wrote:

Just woke up wrote:
Good Morning.

Has anyone taken up the offer that Rob's crew extended of giving the phone number of the stranger that allowed Rob to use his cell phone while left alone in Emporia during the Mr G's car wash video controversy? Also the Bar maid too? A call to this guy could be conclusive to see if this version is legit. Also, a call to this guy might reveal a lame attempt to craft a phony cover up too. A call to the bar maid will reveal which tavern and give a time stamp and we can see how it compares with the time of the Mr G's video.

Additionally if the crew suddenly choses to not give this number after telling us they would that would be telling too.

Laz seems to be the one to ask for such a request.

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Laz doesn't care about letsrun and its members.

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The Other Ultraboy wrote:
"It's clear it is RY."

In what parallel universe are you living? A guy in black with no reflective strips at night carrying what (given that it appears to throw no light on the ground) looks like a mobile phone in his hand walking extremely slowly for someone supposedly early in a day of running for the record across America is clearly RY? This is why Asher asked Rob and his team for details of what he was supposed to be wearing, only for them to provide nothing until after they had seen the video. It certainly doesn't strike me as likely that it is RY, at that pace in those clothes, at that point in his run so far behind the support vehicle that was itself travelling far too slow given he wasn't there. The excuses coming from the team look desperate, they make no logical sense.

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Tom Crockford wrote:

The Scot wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:

RYinvestigator wrote:
One of the reviews concerning his book:
"Very egotistical and full of self indulgence."
It was posted on 4 May 2016, so well before the drama started.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/1471152871/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=recent

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yes, you've nailed it, the proof I am looking for that he has cheated.

Why don't you read the thread like everyone else?

I have read the entire thread and I see no conclusive proof. Just alot of weirdos with theories and accusations.

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Tom Crockford wrote:

Just woke up wrote:
Good Morning.

Has anyone taken up the offer that Rob's crew extended of giving the phone number of the stranger that allowed Rob to use his cell phone while left alone in Emporia during the Mr G's car wash video controversy? Also the Bar maid too? A call to this guy could be conclusive to see if this version is legit. Also, a call to this guy might reveal a lame attempt to craft a phony cover up too. A call to the bar maid will reveal which tavern and give a time stamp and we can see how it compares with the time of the Mr G's video.

Additionally if the crew suddenly choses to not give this number after telling us they would that would be telling too.

Laz seems to be the one to ask for such a request.

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Laz doesn't care about letsrun and its members.

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JTF wrote:
'Rob said: “I was over 15st and a bit chubby before I started doing this but I’m down to around 12st.'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/138134/surviving-dads-abuse-spurred-me-on-to-run-417-marathons-in-14-months/

Don't forget he was chubby and 15 stones (210 pounds) when he ran his first three marathons in 30 hours, the fastest at 3.19

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Tom Crockford wrote:

SloughRunner wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:
Even the video is a joke and it's clear it is RY.

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If Rob Young made a contribution to get people running parkruns etc: good. It doesn't mean that the non-devotees cannot have a critical look at some of the claims that have been made by him or his team.

Im not a fan of RY at all and if he has cheated then he deserves to be outed, I am happy to wait for his times and explanations.

But the pulling apart of his life, his wife, his child and all the needless personal attacks about his past and pathetic attempts at trying to make out everything he does or has done is a fraud is all totally unnecessary. Saying his charity is fraud when its clearly not.

The stalking and just general weirdness of some of the members on here is too much.

So much bitterness and jealousy also present.

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Anyone know? wrote:

RobbyYoung wrote:
Rob managed to do the 20 miles From Effingham to Greenup in about 4hrs. That's a cool 5mph, well above his average of the last few days.

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First 9 miles was in 30 min though.

No one knows why tho.

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The Scot wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:

SloughRunner wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:
Even the video is a joke and it's clear it is RY.

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If Rob Young made a contribution to get people running parkruns etc: good. It doesn't mean that the non-devotees cannot have a critical look at some of the claims that have been made by him or his team.

Im not a fan of RY at all and if he has cheated then he deserves to be outed, I am happy to wait for his times and explanations.

But the pulling apart of his life, his wife, his child and all the needless personal attacks about his past and pathetic attempts at trying to make out everything he does or has done is a fraud is all totally unnecessary. Saying his charity is fraud when its clearly not.

The stalking and just general weirdness of some of the members on here is too much.

So much bitterness and jealousy also present.

Yes or no depending on exactly you are referring to. Some of his claims about past running achievements sound very dubious and that makes me treat his current endeavour with a lot of suspicion. The past family history is something that I stay well clear of but remember, that was a story he brought up not us.

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The Scot wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:
So much bitterness and jealousy also present.

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Yes or no depending on exactly you are referring to. Some of his claims about past running achievements sound very dubious and that makes me treat his current endeavour with a lot of suspicion. The past family history is something that I stay well clear of but remember, that was a story he brought up not us.

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elephino wrote:

And please just stop with the tired old "bitterness and jealousy" stuff. Sports fans can criticize and question athletes without it being because of bitterness and jealousy.

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RYinvestigator wrote:

rules is rules wrote:
From my perspective I see Asher posting under an unregistered name - same as me before you say anything. This in itself is enough to cause doubt as to his credibility.

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The IP of this poster has been tracked down.
It's Kevin O'Rourke a.k.a. CoachKev.

One of the Strava Flybys has replied: "Can't say that I saw him or his RV. I would have liked to though."

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Tom Crockford wrote:

Just woke up wrote:
Good Morning.

Has anyone taken up the offer that Rob's crew extended of giving the phone number of the stranger that allowed Rob to use his cell phone while left alone in Emporia during the Mr G's car wash video controversy? Also the Bar maid too? A call to this guy could be conclusive to see if this version is legit. Also, a call to this guy might reveal a lame attempt to craft a phony cover up too. A call to the bar maid will reveal which tavern and give a time stamp and we can see how it compares with the time of the Mr G's video.

Additionally if the crew suddenly choses to not give this number after telling us they would that would be telling too.

Laz seems to be the one to ask for such a request.

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Laz doesn't care about letsrun and its members.

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curiously interested wrote:

JTF wrote:
'Rob said: “I was over 15st and a bit chubby before I started doing this but I’m down to around 12st.'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/138134/surviving-dads-abuse-spurred-me-on-to-run-417-marathons-in-14-months/

Don't forget he was chubby and 15 stones (210 pounds) when he ran his first three marathons in 30 hours, the fastest at 3.19

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That's an interesting additional detail in his own words that is not mentioned in his book.

So now, regarding his first 3 marathons, I would state it this way based on his own account of things:

I do not buy the claim that he ran 4:07, 3:28, 3:19 in that order, on a whim, untrained, in a 30-hour period of time, weighing 15 stones (210 pounds).

There is definitely some exaggeration and distortion going on with those claims whether it be the times, their order, the distances, the lack of training, his weight, or all of it. All of that is not true at the same time, yet he has claimed all of that in his own words.

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Tom Crockford wrote:

The Scot wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:

SloughRunner wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:
Even the video is a joke and it's clear it is RY.

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If Rob Young made a contribution to get people running parkruns etc: good. It doesn't mean that the non-devotees cannot have a critical look at some of the claims that have been made by him or his team.

Im not a fan of RY at all and if he has cheated then he deserves to be outed, I am happy to wait for his times and explanations.

But the pulling apart of his life, his wife, his child and all the needless personal attacks about his past and pathetic attempts at trying to make out everything he does or has done is a fraud is all totally unnecessary. Saying his charity is fraud when its clearly not.

The stalking and just general weirdness of some of the members on here is too much.

So much bitterness and jealousy also present.

Yes or no depending on exactly you are referring to. Some of his claims about past running achievements sound very dubious and that makes me treat his current endeavour with a lot of suspicion. The past family history is something that I stay well clear of but remember, that was a story he brought up not us.

Yes, I can see there are genuine people in here with genuine concerns over his times and past times. This is understandable.The rest, there is no excuse or need for it.

If I was him, I would also not release times or answer questions until I had finished. Even if he does release times and they all seem legit, the people in here would still tear him to shreds over something else and try and make further accusations, ask 50 questions a minute or poke holes in anything,

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SprintGeezerUK wrote:

curiously interested wrote:

JTF wrote:
'Rob said: “I was over 15st and a bit chubby before I started doing this but I’m down to around 12st.'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/138134/surviving-dads-abuse-spurred-me-on-to-run-417-marathons-in-14-months/

Don't forget he was chubby and 15 stones (210 pounds) when he ran his first three marathons in 30 hours, the fastest at 3.19

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That's an interesting additional detail in his own words that is not mentioned in his book.

So now, regarding his first 3 marathons, I would state it this way based on his own account of things:

I do not buy the claim that he ran 4:07, 3:28, 3:19 in that order, on a whim, untrained, in a 30-hour period of time, weighing 15 stones (210 pounds).

There is definitely some exaggeration and distortion going on with those claims whether it be the times, their order, the distances, the lack of training, his weight, or all of it. All of that is not true at the same time, yet he has claimed all of that in his own words.

Robert Young is an egregiously lying cheat. In my opinion.

Disgusting.

I won't even go over his 2015 season. One of the most disgusting, ever.

Here he is in 2014 doing parkruns in 21 minutes.

I chafe when see his scumbag face on the road.

I hope he goes down in a heap in the final days, he deserves it.

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Just finished a 64 mile run wrote:
This is all adding up with Asher's account, the video in Emporium and RY team's explanation for the carwash. I'm putting a * by the points where I'm guessing what I believe to be the simplest explanation. Hopefully Asher can respond.

1) RY gets dropped off the back of the RV in Emporium according to his own team, apparently unable to keep up with the tracker moving at ~10 mph.

2) He walks past the CCTV after the RV passes, again according to his own team (can we get the FBI to look at this video please?). He calls them for help and they return back, which matches the tracker data.

3) The RV takes off eastbound after the rendezvous at ~10 mph towards Lebo. It maintains this speed until the encounter with Asher.

4) Asher drives past the RV head on and sees no runner. He turns around and drives past the RV from behind and films video #1 with no one outside the RV.

5) Asher stops east of the RV (still west of Fauna), films video #2 as the RV catches up with no apparent runner outside the RV. Asher approaches the RV moving at 'running speed' on foot from behind a house and causes confusion/fear in the RV*. Everything is still west of Fauna Rd here. The RV slows to see what the heck is the lone strobe light trailing them. Someone gets out, freaks, and they speed off (hence the slower pace at the 1:50 check in. Asher runs back to his car.

6) The RV drives ahead turns around in the road just east of Old Fauna as Asher runs back.

7) RY and gang realize the bunny woman surprised them at night and don't want to get busted.* Asher drives by and sees them outside the RV at this point. Asher takes screenshot from his phone of the live tracker. There is a tracker point in the kml file on line 1660, 1661 and screen shot from Asher's phone at exactly the same spot at 2:10 AM. If RY is here at that intersection, he got here at slowest from the rendezvous in Emporium where the RV turned back east at line 1662 by traveling 16.1 mi at 6:40 pace. I'd love to hear another explanation.

Asher, the tracker data shows the rendezvous point in Emporium during the back track was likely at the corner of Homewood and HWY 50.

8) RY walks for a bit in case a runner is showing up.* Asher drives ahead and hides for the final video. We can only guess his pace, but if he's indeed the guy walking in the CCTV video at 20 min/mile, the RV data from this time is reasonably close.

9) No one shows up to run with them and all clear is given. The tracker is really crazy here. It goes very slow for 12 minutes then picks back up to 10 mph cruising speed (the same speed we have 3 videos of with no runner in sight) past Garner Rd where Asher films video #3 again with no apparent runner.

IMO the videos and both accounts are absolutely damning to RY in this case if his own explanation for getting dropped in Emporium is true. Asher filmed the RV in a stretch where (by his RW interview) RY was supposedly right with it during that 16.1 mile stretch at ~6:40 pace (the first 15.3 mi in 6:15 pace heading to Fauna and 50), the same pace he was apparently dropped at an hour earlier. There's no other way he got there as he claimed he was in the RW interview other than running that fast if he met the RV at the point it turned back east after it backtracked to find him in Emporium.

Either the RV went back to Emporium and found RY after the emergency phone call, then IMMEDIATELY dropped him again such that Asher never saw him. And he subsequently ran past Asher (at surely a sub 6 pace) to get to the corner of Fauna and 50. OR he outran the RV significantly out of Emporium during that stretch such that Asher never saw him or captured him on video. Where was he if not inside the RV? The only explanations left to me are that the tracker is completely wrong (making the entire thing a sham), Asher somehow fabricated all of this, RY was running in a field to the intersection of 50 and Fauna, or he rode in the RV.

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JB1983 wrote:

SprintGeezerUK wrote:

curiously interested wrote:

JTF wrote:
'Rob said: “I was over 15st and a bit chubby before I started doing this but I’m down to around 12st.'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/138134/surviving-dads-abuse-spurred-me-on-to-run-417-marathons-in-14-months/

Don't forget he was chubby and 15 stones (210 pounds) when he ran his first three marathons in 30 hours, the fastest at 3.19

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That's an interesting additional detail in his own words that is not mentioned in his book.

So now, regarding his first 3 marathons, I would state it this way based on his own account of things:

I do not buy the claim that he ran 4:07, 3:28, 3:19 in that order, on a whim, untrained, in a 30-hour period of time, weighing 15 stones (210 pounds).

There is definitely some exaggeration and distortion going on with those claims whether it be the times, their order, the distances, the lack of training, his weight, or all of it. All of that is not true at the same time, yet he has claimed all of that in his own words.

Robert Young is an egregiously lying cheat. In my opinion.

Disgusting.

I won't even go over his 2015 season. One of the most disgusting, ever.

Here he is in 2014 doing parkruns in 21 minutes.

I chafe when see his scumbag face on the road.

I hope he goes down in a heap in the final days, he deserves it.

I bet you are a fun guy to be around
Slightly unhinged