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Numbersguy
Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 2:34PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not what was advertised, but solid start to season nonetheless.
haha
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 2:42PM - in reply to Numbersguy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
62 last 400. Not that impressive
Come on mayne
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 2:47PM - in reply to haha Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There were 3 other people in the heat. Pretty good for not being pressed.
/WhAt?
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 3:04PM - in reply to Come on mayne Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
PR and 2 seconds ahead of what he ran a month later in the season last year? I'll take it
The Waterboy
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 3:14PM - in reply to /WhAt? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
His splits were 58-1:55-2:53 for 400m, 800m, and 1200m, and then 64 for the last 409m. 2:53 for 1200m is 3:52 mile pace so he definitely went for it and then just fell off at the end but it's great to see him going after a fast time even if it's by himself.
goldengoose
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 3:16PM - in reply to The Waterboy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
were you taking those splits from the announcer? I had the 1200 split @ 2:55. The announcer seemed to be a second or two fast on almost every split
Riemann Integrable
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 3:29PM - in reply to Numbersguy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I was near the start: http://i.imgur.com/TVMxh.jpg
The Waterboy
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 3:34PM - in reply to goldengoose Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

goldengoose wrote:

were you taking those splits from the announcer? I had the 1200 split @ 2:55. The announcer seemed to be a second or two fast on almost every split


From Flotrack on twitter. Perhaps the 2:55 was at 1209 meters
Simple Runner
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 4:48PM - in reply to Numbersguy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Solid, yes ... and all that talk of 3:50 seems a little silly now.
Lepperd
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 4:53PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Did he win? If so, he was probably just jogging it in cause he thought he already had the W in the bag by 1200. If not, I got nothing
someone had to do it
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 4:56PM - in reply to Lepperd Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He was basically on 3:51 pace for 1200m. This was his first race of the year. He still has a ways to go until he peaks for the indoor season. This was a good opening as he was running completely alone save for the rabbit taking him through 800m or so.
boredomviceandneed
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 5:33PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ha! A rabbit taking you through 800 = not alone!

A time trial by yourself on the track or crushing the field from the gun is running alone.
26mi235
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 5:57PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2:53.x at 1200m is actually slower than 3:51 pace -- more like 3:53.0. Thus, if the splits really were with 2:53 at 12, he had 409 to run, and a 60 last lap+ would be continuing that pace.
Hopeful Runner
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 6:03PM - in reply to Numbersguy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wish he would of raced the 2 mile..
440y
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 9:38PM - in reply to 26mi235 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

26mi235 wrote:

2:53.x at 1200m is actually slower than 3:51 pace -- more like 3:53.0. Thus, if the splits really were with 2:53 at 12, he had 409 to run, and a 60 last lap+ would be continuing that pace.


The splits at yards, not meters.

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Greg Hill
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/12/2013 9:58PM - in reply to 440y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It would be interesting to know if Rupp's last 409 meters in 64 is the slowest last 409 of anyone who has finished in 3:57.

Fortune favors the brave. I hope Rupp has the same brave approach at Milrose in a few weeks.
Plus sized
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/13/2013 1:31AM - in reply to haha Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

haha wrote:

62 last 400. Not that impressive


Don't put too much into a rust buster. Rupp will be where he needs to be, when he needs to be.
longjack
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/14/2013 1:19AM - in reply to Plus sized Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
salazar has improved big time as a coach over his carear.

however, you don't open with a 3 50 mile. a sebastian coe is hard pressed to run sub 349 without his best shape.

pros and rookies alike - don't try and max out your first race.

sal was probably maybe??? figuring that rupp was in sub 334 shape as compared to last year so 155 at the half should be fine.

the reality is that while rupp can probably run 148 flat in the 800m, without peaking 152 is a bit of a test for him. so 155 half will kill him (as seen) and demoralize him (a bit) - not useful.

you open the guy with a sub 4 mile, and do 1:50ish for the 8, then sharpen for a week, then blow out the 350 mile.

for rupp to get the 148 flat rupp will need to concentrate for a period on 300m to 500m quality repeats (not too many)

you gotta respect that time, 3:50, unless you are in the right race, that time don't come easy, not easy at all.

finally, the 350 from 10th place in a hoover race REALLY is worth 354 in a race with only a couple of competitive guys and good pacing and drafting chances are limited.

that is why guys pop those big times, they peak well and jump into a hoover race, and voila, drop 3 seconds (in the mile) on their PB.

then they think they're ready to medal in the OG.
when the reality is otherwise.
Plus sized
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/14/2013 1:28AM - in reply to longjack Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Solid points, but I would point out that when Salazar thinks rupp is ready for something it's usually based on workouts and it's often right. Rustbusters are the most unpredictable however.

Anyway, we all know he will be ready when he really needs to be. The upcoming 3000 should be interesting.
bobby v.
RE: Galen Rupp 3:57 1/14/2013 10:07AM - in reply to Plus sized Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the 3000 might be interesting, but the odds of him beating 12:46 man gebremeskel are really, really long in my opinion. that would be shocking actually. come outdoors, however, we're looking at a really great 10k and medal hopefully and maybe even some serious 5k improvement/medal at worlds. this gebremeskel character though, he could be one of the all-time greats at 3000/5000. his 12:46 didn't even look that hard for him. plus i think rupp is much better outdoors, due to his height and running style -- not the most quick, but very good speed.
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