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Azaleas
IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 9:36AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
trollism
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 9:43AM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Is this proof that Turkey have started gene doping techniques on their athletes?

Erdogan is a former Ethiopian distance runner, and we've been told many times that East African athletes are genetically unable to cheat.
Go Afrika
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 9:52AM - in reply to trollism Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Unite bros and sistas against da evil. Nobody can take our medals away. Wi ar genetically superior and have big pennis too. We ar unable to cheat or lie.
agip
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 9:58AM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bravi. They are dropping like used up space stations.
trollism
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:11AM - in reply to agip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Given that the 'Biological Passport' system works by analysing blood values over a period of time, it's not a shock that they're targeting mainly people from 'non-smiley' countries.

I wonder if the ones from more 'genetically non-cheating' nations are even being bothered with by this system.

Wouldn't shock me at all.
Azaleas
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:13AM - in reply to trollism Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I have no idea what you're talking about. You have jumped the sarcasm shark.
trollism
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:16AM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Azaleas wrote:

I have no idea what you're talking about. You have jumped the sarcasm shark.


I wasn't aware I was being sarcastic at all.

My first post was more facetious, and my second post was a genuine honest concern albeit written in a facetious manner.
agip
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:16AM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://www.iaaf.org/antidoping/news/newsid=66099.html


The IAAF also announced three former soviet union athletes tested positive from re-tests after Daegu. Two sprinters and a 1500 runner. This is getting good:


Monte Carlo - In what should serve as a timely warning to athletes ahead of the London Olympics, the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) has used evidence and abnormalities identified in the biological passport of three elite athletes to retrospectively uncover further cases of doping at the 2011 IAAF World Championships.

Three individual athletes were each recently found guilty of anti-doping rule violations and subsequently sanctioned by their respective National Federations following the re-analysis of their blood and urine samples collected at the IAAF World Championships in Athletics in Daegu, Korea.

The sample of Inna Eftimova (Bulgaria) tested positive for synthetic Growth Hormone, while the samples of Nataliya Tobias (Ukraine) and Antonina Yefremova, (Ukraine) both contained traces of synthetic testosterone
agip
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:18AM - in reply to trollism Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

trollism wrote:

Given that the 'Biological Passport' system works by analysing blood values over a period of time, it's not a shock that they're targeting mainly people from 'non-smiley' countries.

I wonder if the ones from more 'genetically non-cheating' nations are even being bothered with by this system.

Wouldn't shock me at all.


the heck does all this mean? Stop with the euphemisms. Am I a non smiley person or a genetically non cheating person?
agip
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:21AM - in reply to agip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Holy crap Nataliya Tobias won a bronze in 2008 Beijing in the 1500 - I hate this crap.
mcgato
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:22AM - in reply to agip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

agip wrote:The IAAF also announced three former soviet union athletes tested positive from re-tests after Daegu.
I'm pretty sure that Bulgaria was never part of the Soviet Union.
trollism
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:22AM - in reply to agip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you're American you're certainly not 'genetically non-cheating' but you're smiley neutral.
Camazotz
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:23AM - in reply to agip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

agip wrote:

Holy crap Nataliya Tobias won a bronze in 2008 Beijing in the 1500 - I hate this crap.


Hate that they dope . . . or hate when they get caught?
agip
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:27AM - in reply to mcgato Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The People's Republic of Bulgaria (PRB) (Bulgarian: Народна република България (НРБ), Narodna republika Balgariya (NRB)) was the official name of the Bulgarian communist republic that existed from 1946 to 1990, when the Bulgarian Communist Party (BCP) was ruling together with the 'oppositional' National Agrarian Party. Bulgaria was viewed in the West as a satellite state of the Soviet Union,[1][2] part of Comecon and an Eastern Bloc country, and a Soviet ally during the Cold War, a member of the Warsaw Pact.

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ok, Bulgaria wasn't technically in the USSR, but pretty close.
Canada1978
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:41AM - in reply to agip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Canada wasn't technically in the USA, but pretty close.
Azaleas
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 10:44AM - in reply to Canada1978 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So, does the biological passport make it impossible to blood dope, or just difficult? I would think it's extremely difficult to hide the constant swings in your blood values.
MoGalen
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 11:05AM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
According to tweets by TnF_TMZ, Galen Rupp and Mo Farah are being investigated for doping.

http://twitter.com/tnf_tmz: @G_Rupp @Mo_Farah of Nike Oregon Distance Project are under investigation for doping...only question: do they go down before or after games?

How does this relate to the IAAF biological passport? Well, the news about Abderrahim Goumri was leaked a month ago. The IAAF officially announced Goumri's doping today. Will it be the same with Farah + Rupp?
That stinks
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 11:07AM - in reply to Camazotz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
But I suppose she keeps the bronze from Beijing. I wonder if there's some way to go back and retest her samples from 2008.
Whazzzup
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 11:35AM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So what is the biological passport measuring? Is it detecting drugs or measuring something else?
Azaleas
RE: IAAF finds 6 new dopers using biological passport 7/25/2012 11:47AM - in reply to Whazzzup Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm not 100% up to date on it, but I know that blood dopers have unnatural variations in their blood profiles. Hematocrit, for instance, shouldn't jump around or have odd step discontinuities unless you're in an accident or something.
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