| Can't Hardly Wait |
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Come on Will, Craig, Miles, Andy, John, Jordan! Be men, take it out hard to try to get the A standard. When you die and end of making fools of yourselves, what do we care? Signed, A Standard #'s 1 and 2 It is KNOWN that the non-A 6 don't have a chance in hell to run 3:35.50 in this race. None, zero, zip, nada. No need to make a fool of yourself by taking it out hard and dying. None at all. Let's take this race through 800 in 2:05, hopefully 2:10 or slower, or if it's even way slower, all the better! Just get the frick out of the way over the last 400. Signed, A Standard #'s 3 and 4 Whatever, we'll qualify no matter the pace. Signed, A Standard #'s 5 and 6 So what's the ordering of A Standard #'s 1-6? I've got Centro as a 1 or 2, Andrews as a 3 or 4 and Wheating as a 5 or 6. Obviously, all six guys think they're a 5 or 6. All we know for sure is that three will end up happy and three will end up very unhappy, with laments about how the pace didn't go out how they wanted or expected. Whatever, I can't remember a Men's 1500 final with so many sub-plots, including the potential for A's getting pissed with non-A's for getting in the way, guys getting boxed, guys going down. It could be won in 3:37, it could be won in 3:47. Meanwhile, every day care in America should DVR the Women's 1500 final to be able to show it, in perpetuity, to the 3 and 4 year olds to try to get them to go to sleep. |
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Can you put in the start list, and a list of who as the "A" ? The thing is...if history is prelude...it is going to be a slow assed affair. A lot depends on how fit Centrowitz is coming back from knee surgery. If he is a shadow of last year and can smoothly ratchet up the pace... could be an interesting race... |
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The 6 of them should time trial it cycling style, single file with a new leader every 200m. Then once the bell goes it's a free for all. Would be amazing to watch. Nothing to lose everything to gain. |
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Centro didn't have a chance in hell for a :51 last lap World Bronze. Rupp didn't have a chance in hell of a :52 last lap kick over Lagat. Ritz didn't have a chance in hell of beating Hall in the '08 Olympics. Noah Ngeny didn't have a chance in hell to outkick El G for an Olympic record and Gold. .....Sorry, but non-A's taking 1 second off their PR's (for most) in the biggest meet of their lives should be gone for. |
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...and Blake didn't have a chance in hell to beat Bolt today. |
| My Name is Judge |
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Centro didn't have a chance in hell for a :51 last lap World Bronze. Rupp didn't have a chance in hell of a :52 last lap kick over Lagat. Ritz didn't have a chance in hell of beating Hall in the '08 Olympics. Noah Ngeny didn't have a chance in hell to outkick El G for an Olympic record and Gold. .....Sorry, but non-A's taking 1 second off their PR's (for most) in the biggest meet of their lives should be gone for.[/quote] I don't think you understood the OP. Surely some of the non-A's are capable of running the A standard, but it's highly unlikely that anyone is going to force the pace in the final. I would be very surprised if it's 2:00 or faster through 800 |
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Honestly, I think I understood the OP perfectly. At that, it wouldn't surprise me if most of the non-A's didn't go for the A. It happened in the 5K & 10K. Esp. for the pros -> Disgraceful. Ppl bash anything on the forums, but give a pass to quitting. |
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Centro didn't have a chance in hell for a :51 last lap World Bronze. Rupp didn't have a chance in hell of a :52 last lap kick over Lagat. Ritz didn't have a chance in hell of beating Hall in the '08 Olympics. Noah Ngeny didn't have a chance in hell to outkick El G for an Olympic record and Gold. .....Sorry, but non-A's taking 1 second off their PR's (for most) in the biggest meet of their lives should be gone for. [/Quote] Sorry but after all these rounds, they will be too tired to PR. Most of there PRs do not come hot of the feels of two rounds. |
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Centro has already said privately that he is prepared to go under 3:33 if necessary. |
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Centro and Manzano are 5/6. Each should definitely qualify unless something goes wrong. If i had to bet money on a 3rd, it's on Wheating. Admittedly, it's interesting to think about strategy for the runners involved. IMO, the top 3 (listed above) should probably want a fast (but not super fast) pace that they can kick off of. The top 3 are superior runners, and a race like that really brings that out. Full Disclosure: Rooting hard for Manzano to win/qualify. |
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I guess it's not private anymore. What I would like to know is how Centro has gone from running a 3:57 mile and a 3:37 1500 in the last month to all of a sudden being prepared to go under 3:33. |
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I'm hoping that Centro wins, and Wheating and Robby Andrews make the team |
| jussayinyo |
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We need a LR poll: Will there be an attempt at the A-standard? |
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I'm always surprised that this sort of thing doesn't happen more often. I mean, they've gained all they can from just being in the final, right? Why not work together and see if they can get set up with a lap to go to get the standard and maybe even make a break for the top-3? No more reason to play it safe here. |
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What will Will Leer do if he finishes third and misses the standard? I can't believe he'll go down without pushing the pace after how hard he took the disappointment last time. |
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I'm always surprised that this sort of thing doesn't happen more often. I mean, they've gained all they can from just being in the final, right? Why not work together and see if they can get set up with a lap to go to get the standard and maybe even make a break for the top-3? No more reason to play it safe here.[/quote] Makes sense to me. |
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Endorsing not going for the A-standard, is really the single most ludicrous statement I have ever read here. It's EXACTLY the same if OKC made Durant inactive for Game 5. Hey, OKC was down 3-1. No chance to win. |
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I could see why NOT going for the standard makes sense. How realistic is getting six runners or so on the same page to help each other out? There are too many big egos involved. So if one guy decides to race on courage, he'll be a sitting duck and not only miss making the Olympic team but having poor tactics plah out on national television. Think about it. You got to put yourself in their shoes. |
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So don't try. Got it. Trafeh made a "fool" of himself going for it in the 5K. Ball players should never swing at the plate. They look like fools if they miss. |
| My Name is Judge |
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Well of course they SHOULD try, but it's unlikely they will. The previous poster put it well, it's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma for the non-A's to push the pace. Each non-A wants an honest pace but none of them are willing to push it alone. |