merrr
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 2:08PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I remember when this guy was on the Colbert Report about a year ago. Well I guess he hasn't keeled over and died yet. Sign him up for Crossfit next!
merrr
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 2:11PM - in reply to merrr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well just read the article, he's already in Crossfit...
Adam Smith
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 2:16PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I see he's taken up the Paleolithic Diet but not the full paleo lifestyle. When he lives in caves and grunts to communicate, then I'll respect his diet as something more than a fad.
Nutella1
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 2:24PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Most studies regarding red meat are severely flawed. You can't isolate this one ingredient to your diet.

Ok, I give you a few examples:

- many people who like red meat like to drink alcohol with it and fries or mashed potatoes
- more people who eat red meat are also smokers than the group that is vegetarian
- probably a lot of those also ate sausages, which are highly processed and salt-loaded
- many of the red meat lovers probably eat at fast food chains, where you get the antibiotics filled meat

Now I challenge anyone to find a study that proves that eating red meat (organic/fresh from the farm) while maintaining a healthy lifestyle (exercise, non-smoker, moderate drinker) is bad for your health.
Nutella1
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 2:25PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Btw: the article also says that red meat got a bad reputation because high cholesterol is bad for you.

There is not a single study that proves that high cholesterol in your diet has any effect on your body's cholesterol.
Keith Stone
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 2:41PM - in reply to Adam Smith Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Certainly a real renaissance dildo, reminds me of the days when people would dress up like Mr Natural.
Precious Roy
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 2:54PM - in reply to Nutella1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Nutella1 wrote:

Most studies regarding red meat are severely flawed. You can't isolate this one ingredient to your diet.

Ok, I give you a few examples:

- many people who like red meat like to drink alcohol with it and fries or mashed potatoes
- more people who eat red meat are also smokers than the group that is vegetarian
- probably a lot of those also ate sausages, which are highly processed and salt-loaded
- many of the red meat lovers probably eat at fast food chains, where you get the antibiotics filled meat

Now I challenge anyone to find a study that proves that eating red meat (organic/fresh from the farm) while maintaining a healthy lifestyle (exercise, non-smoker, moderate drinker) is bad for your health.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/health/research/red-meat-linked-to-cancer-and-heart-disease.html

This study controlled for smoking and sedentary lifestyle. It also separated out processed meat consumption. Of course, you can try to impose a zillion conditions to make relevant studies appear irrelevant (grass fed, heritage meat, cooked medium-rare, served with a glass of Bordeaux, consumed by someone who exercises regularly and lives in an area with no fumes from vehicles or industry, blah blah blah). But the science is pretty solid that the more meat you eat, the higher your risk of cancer and heart disease is.
Nutella1
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 3:06PM - in reply to Precious Roy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Precious Roy wrote:
This study controlled for smoking and sedentary lifestyle. It also separated out processed meat consumption. Of course, you can try to impose a zillion conditions to make relevant studies appear irrelevant (grass fed, heritage meat, cooked medium-rare, served with a glass of Bordeaux, consumed by someone who exercises regularly and lives in an area with no fumes from vehicles or industry, blah blah blah). But the science is pretty solid that the more meat you eat, the higher your risk of cancer and heart disease is.


10% greater risk of dying after taking out these factors doesn't sound that big anymore - question would be how much lower would this number get if they filter out sausages (because of the salt), antibiotics loaded meat and those who like to eat their meat either rare/medium-rare or burnt (black from the grill). I'd imagine that number to go down significantly, and then we're probably at around 5%. Would you sacrifice eating burgers for such 5%?
Precious Roy
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 4:40PM - in reply to Nutella1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Nutella1 wrote:

[quote]Precious Roy wrote:
This study controlled for smoking and sedentary lifestyle. It also separated out processed meat consumption. Of course, you can try to impose a zillion conditions to make relevant studies appear irrelevant (grass fed, heritage meat, cooked medium-rare, served with a glass of Bordeaux, consumed by someone who exercises regularly and lives in an area with no fumes from vehicles or industry, blah blah blah). But the science is pretty solid that the more meat you eat, the higher your risk of cancer and heart disease is.


10% greater risk of dying after taking out these factors doesn't sound that big anymore - question would be how much lower would this number get if they filter out sausages (because of the salt), antibiotics loaded meat and those who like to eat their meat either rare/medium-rare or burnt (black from the grill). I'd imagine that number to go down significantly, and then we're probably at around 5%. Would you sacrifice eating burgers for such 5%?[/quote]

Read the study. The risk for cancer goes up by 10% for each 3 oz portion added daily. No one eats just 3 oz of meat. Most people consider a dinner sized steak to be 9-12 oz, with many people eating 20+ oz at nice steakhouses. Now you are talking about an increase of 30, 40, 50%. That is huge. And I do sacrifice eating burgers to avoid the health risks.
HC
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 5:01PM - in reply to Nutella1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Nutella1 wrote:

10% greater risk of dying after taking out these factors doesn't sound that big anymore - question would be how much lower would this number get if they filter out sausages (because of the salt), antibiotics loaded meat and those who like to eat their meat either rare/medium-rare or burnt (black from the grill). I'd imagine that number to go down significantly, and then we're probably at around 5%. Would you sacrifice eating burgers for such 5%?

"You can't find a study showing X."
[Here's a an article on the study that showed X]
"Yeah, but even though that study shows X, it doesn't really matter."

LMAO.
fasfads
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 5:56PM - in reply to Precious Roy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Also, the study DOES take separate processed meat consumption. So 10% stands.
lucky luchiano
RE: Barefoot, P90X, Cave-Man Diet, Beard, Living in NYC - This guy does it all!!! 6/25/2012 6:34PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I highly recommend the "Insanity" workouts for anyone looking to take a break from running and keep their cardio going. I never came back from a break feeling so good.