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Rudisha Wow
Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 10:20AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Honest question, assuming no injuries get in his way until then. He will win Olympic Gold. Everyone knows.

What are the other T&F events where the competition has 0 chance against the favorite?

A few months back I would have said Bolt but he does't seem to be in 2008/2009 shape. Also a false start can always happen ins sprints...
penguins
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 10:30AM - in reply to Rudisha Wow Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cam Lev... actually never mind
Dennis Reynolds
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 10:30AM - in reply to Rudisha Wow Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There will never be a lock in the 800m.
Logical Man
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 10:35AM - in reply to Dennis Reynolds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Dennis Reynolds wrote:

There will never be a lock in the 800m.


There will never be a lock in any event.
ggg
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 10:38AM - in reply to Rudisha Wow Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
KB in the 10000m
Some crazy runner guy
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 10:39AM - in reply to Logical Man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Logical Man wrote:

[quote]Dennis Reynolds wrote:

There will never be a lock in the 800m.


There will never be a lock in any event.[/quote]

Yeah nobody is a lock for anything. But bolt, rudisha, kiprop, and mo all have a good shot at taking home gold
toro
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 10:46AM - in reply to Dennis Reynolds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
800m is the most unpredictable of all races.
Never a lock.
You don't see Coe and Kipketer with any Olympic Gold medals in the 800.
Rudisha easily had the world lead in 2009 and did not make it out of the semis.
Kaki had the world lead in 2008 and did not make it out of the semis.
The 2007 world leader was 7th in he 2007 WC's
The 2005 world leadeer was 4th
The 2004 world leader did not make the Olympic final

Etc., etc.

Last year Rudisha won.
Kipketer won a few world championships.

Rudisha is one of the biggest favorites this year along with Bolt.
another humble opinion
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 11:15AM - in reply to Some crazy runner guy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Some crazy runner guy wrote:


Yeah nobody is a lock for anything. But bolt, rudisha, kiprop, and mo all have a good shot at taking home gold


I don't think Mo's chances are anywhere near as high as the others you list.

I'd put the odds of at least one gold for these folks at something like:

Bolt: 99% (Does this guy ever lose? Plus he has 3 - 4 events. Hard to imagine zero golds for him)
Rudisha: 80% (Incredibly dominant - Could almost say 99% but the 800 is a strange beast)
Kiprop: 70% (He has shown some inconsistency)
Mo: 30% (Bekele, Lagat, others. Honestly, I'm not sure that I would list Mo as the favorite in any event and certainly I would not take him over "The Field" in any event)
B-Sample
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 11:33AM - in reply to another humble opinion Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sally Pearson 110h is looking pretty bulletproof.

Ashton Eaton will be odds-on deca fave, although a bit young, he seems super-solid mentally.
Color blind FTW
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 11:46AM - in reply to B-Sample Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Are you sure he's a lock?

Are you so sure that you would bet every single last penny that you have in your name and win nothing back in return if he wins? Are you so sure you would let every inmate American have their way with you if he loses? Are you so sure you would eat your own feces if he loses?

If you even have to think about the answer to any of the questions above, then no, David Rudisha is not a lock.
rillbodgers
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 11:53AM - in reply to Color blind FTW Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No one is ever a lock for anything. That's why you run the damn race. You could put '05 Kenenisa Bekele in a D3 10k and he's not a lock.
agip
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 11:57AM - in reply to rillbodgers Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Valerie Adams in the SP maybe...probably chicherova in the hj, if vlasic is hurt.

But nothing is a lock, even rudisha
Locksmith
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 12:01PM - in reply to rillbodgers Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think he is a lock. Yes, the 800m is hard to predict. But, when you are a front runner and that much better than the field, you can dictate your own tactics. His style of racing is why he is a sure thing.

I say he is 95%, barring something like an injury.

I think Bolt is 90% in the 200m, 85% in the 100m.
For real
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 12:13PM - in reply to Locksmith Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Current Betting Prices according to Pinnacle

Will Bolt Win 100?
Yes -207 (= 67.43%)
No +194

Will Rudisha Win 800?
Yes -348 (= 77.68%)
No +320
Consider This
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 12:13PM - in reply to Locksmith Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nobody is a lock, but if I had to bet on one man winning gold I'd put my money on Rudisha. Including women Sally Pearson is probably almost as much of a heavy favorite as Rudisha.
old coach man
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 1:07PM - in reply to agip Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

agip wrote:

Valerie Adams in the SP maybe...probably chicherova in the hj, if vlasic is hurt.

But nothing is a lock, even rudisha



Consider This wrote:

Nobody is a lock, but if I had to bet on one man winning gold I'd put my money on Rudisha. Including women Sally Pearson is probably almost as much of a heavy favorite as Rudisha.


Adams, Chicherova Rudisha and Pearson are all favorites but they are also in events that are completely unpredictable.

Remember the 08 100HH and Lolo? She was untouchable all season until that one race.

Vlasic in the HJ in 08 was untouchable all year until she lost on misses to Hellabaut.

How about Isinbaeva in Berlin?

Or the 3 American shot putters who will dominate a season and struggle under the weight of a major championship.

Even Rudisha lost to Amann in Milan. It was rainy, they went through the quarter in 50.5 and Rudisha just didnt have it. Anyone can beat anyone.
Yes I am being picky
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 1:18PM - in reply to Locksmith Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Locksmith wrote:

I think he is a lock. Yes, the 800m is hard to predict. But, when you are a front runner and that much better than the field, you can dictate your own tactics. His style of racing is why he is a sure thing.

I say he is 95%, barring something like an injury.

I think Bolt is 90% in the 200m, 85% in the 100m.


Is it a "lock" if it's a <95% probability of winning (95% less the probability of injury)?

I think a "lock" = 100%. No one is ever a lock.
gonchar
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 1:51PM - in reply to Yes I am being picky Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
getting tripped or spiked heavily may impact any 800 race.
At the present form, however, no one goes in with such an overwelming favorite role. Know of no one else running close to 1:42 at this point.
Consider This
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 2:06PM - in reply to old coach man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

old coach man wrote:

[quote]agip wrote:

Valerie Adams in the SP maybe...probably chicherova in the hj, if vlasic is hurt.

But nothing is a lock, even rudisha



Consider This wrote:

Nobody is a lock, but if I had to bet on one man winning gold I'd put my money on Rudisha. Including women Sally Pearson is probably almost as much of a heavy favorite as Rudisha.


Adams, Chicherova Rudisha and Pearson are all favorites but they are also in events that are completely unpredictable.

Remember the 08 100HH and Lolo? She was untouchable all season until that one race.

Vlasic in the HJ in 08 was untouchable all year until she lost on misses to Hellabaut.

How about Isinbaeva in Berlin?

Or the 3 American shot putters who will dominate a season and struggle under the weight of a major championship.

Even Rudisha lost to Amann in Milan. It was rainy, they went through the quarter in 50.5 and Rudisha just didnt have it. Anyone can beat anyone.[/quote]


I agree mostly, but I still think Rudisha is a heavy favorite. The dude is just a monster, and is obviously already in phenomenal shape (I guess no one told him "it's early and it's an Olympic year," like they told Webb and Bekele).
jaswk
RE: Is Rudisha the only lock on gold in London 6/11/2012 2:10PM - in reply to Rudisha Wow Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just out of curiosity, how do people feel about the OP's use of the word "lock" for Rudisha?
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