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John Boehner
WEBB 3:37.26 5/18/2012 10:46PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
HOP ABOARD THE WEBB TRAIN. BOWERMAN HERE WE COME.
Hilarity ensues
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/18/2012 10:50PM - in reply to John Boehner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
3:37 is like 3:54-3:56 right?

If he was taking it easy lets assume a 3:53-3:52 by Bowerman and maybe 3:34 shape by the trials.
joho
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/18/2012 10:59PM - in reply to Hilarity ensues Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I wouldn't assume he was taking it easy. He was leading much of the race and then started getting passed, a lot, on the last lap and couldn't move with everyone. Hopefully he can get everything together for the trials. I really want to see him in the Olympics.
Casual Rupp fan
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/18/2012 11:07PM - in reply to John Boehner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some posters said that Webb would run 3:35 or similar at Oxy...and the race wasn't so tactical.
kadshfkadsjhfkldsahflkdsahflds
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/18/2012 11:37PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
actually, if webb is doing all this off endurance he could easily hit 333 come the trials.

that is, if he can get that bounce back. but maybe the pistons dont work anymore. they do wear out you know
Interesting Factoid
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/18/2012 11:45PM - in reply to kadshfkadsjhfkldsahflkdsahflds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Q: Last time Webb ran sub 3:35.50?

A: July 6, 2007 Paris 3:30.54 (PR, WL)
gffg
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 12:03AM - in reply to Interesting Factoid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
nice

Interesting Factoid wrote:

Q: Last time Webb ran sub 3:35.50?

A: July 6, 2007 Paris 3:30.54 (PR, WL)
i kinda like running
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 12:12AM - in reply to John Boehner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He seemed fairly content after the race and it looked like Vig was congratulating him excitedly on the infield, as if they were quite pleased with the result. So clearly things are going according to plan at least.

A lot of people seem to think Webb hasn't done much speed work yet, and that wouldn't surprise me. The strength is there, now he needs some wheels. Tonight's 3:37 was probably worth a 3:55 mile. I would expect 3:53 or so at Pre, and by the time the Trials roll around he should be a contender for top 3.

However, I still think Webb's medal chances are almost nil.
Rusty Shackleford
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 12:19AM - in reply to i kinda like running Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

i kinda like running wrote:
Tonight's 3:37 was probably worth a 3:55 mile.


Would it be worth something else another night?
Running in the Rain
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 12:40AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
3:37 low is great off of only 1:51 800 speed.
phatTongue
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 6:15AM - in reply to i kinda like running Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Webb and Robby workout from a recent youtube vid (didn't say specifics)

7x 3min
500's
100's (~12.5) with Andrew's pulling away on the last one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nR6E0Ap6Ic&feature=relmfu

in a related interview vid that day, Webb says ~ a little bit of everything...'speed endurance'.

so presumably he's down some raw speed work during his base already
Random apostrophe alert!
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 6:57AM - in reply to phatTongue Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

phatTongue wrote:
...with Andrew's pulling away on the last one


Don't leave us in suspense: Andrew's what pulled away on the last one?

And which Andrew?
Todd of Texas
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 7:34AM - in reply to Rusty Shackleford Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

[quote]i kinda like running wrote:
Tonight's 3:37 was probably worth a 3:55 mile.


Would it be worth something else another night?[/quote]


Most other nights it would be worth a 3:54 mile
Rbyrne
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 8:40AM - in reply to joho Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
why do you want to see webb in the olympics instead of our three best 1500 meter guys. Right now he is not among our three best...
10k runner
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 8:49AM - in reply to Rbyrne Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This is a perplexing result for Webb. On one hand it's another step in the right direction, but on the other hand you would normally expect a healthy Webb to be a few seconds faster by this time.

After watching those Webb/Andrews/Vig videos I get the sense that this is all part of their plan and he is still in hold back mode. We will know for sure in a few weeks.
HYPE MAN it a con
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 9:00AM - in reply to 10k runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
These races for Webb maybe no more than high intensity workouts. It is strange to see somebody who recently ran only a 1:51 800 run a 3:37 1500.

The main problem for Webb is that there are so many fast 1500 runners this year. We have already seen the NCAA 1500 fall twice this year. Even Rupp, who is not even a 1500 runner, post an impressive 3:34 1500.
caesarsghost
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 9:24AM - in reply to HYPE MAN it a con Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Okay, I'll add a little fodder to this discussion:

During the workout video, there is a point where Vig keeps shouting to Webb not to run too fast: "NO SORENESS!" Is it possible that he's telling Webb not to go to an all-out sprint at the end of the races, and that the "no soreness" rule is still applying? If so, Webb could drop another second, maybe second and a half.
bangalangadanga
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 9:36AM - in reply to caesarsghost Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
if webb does this, Vig gets coach of the year!

I predict a 3:53-3:54 for Webb.
Now, let's talk trials strategy. He's going to go 2004 style and drive with 1100 meters to go.
52.43
RE: WEBB 3:37.26 5/19/2012 10:03AM - in reply to Running in the Rain Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, what was the reason for the 1:51? Would like to see a "line of fit" from 1:51 over 3:37 to longer distances! But small hope for Webb seems coming. Beat PvWesthuizen, Miles Batty and Will Leer.
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