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Jordan Hasay appears to have doubled-up at the Oregon Twilight meet, running 4:19 in the 1500m followed by a 2:08 in the 800m |
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could she break 60 in the quarter? I doubt it. |
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I know it was windy and a double, but can someone get this gal some turnover, already? 2:08 ain't gonna cut it. She needs to be able to throw down at least a 2:02-2:03 if she expects to be a contender in championship races. I root for her, and hope she does well, but she needs to get that 800 down pronto. |
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Oh great, oh lordy, here come the waterworks...I will not...I promised myself I would not...cry...must not cry...WHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH sob sob sob WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! |
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I'd bet she could. |
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Tear drops fall to earth Stream becomes river The ocean is the river's goal The vast ocean of her heart No grandma, I'm not crying My retinas are merely pissing |
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I'd bet she could.[/quote] Me too. The year I first broke 4:20 (with a 4:19) I was 56-57 - and like Hasay I have no speed. |
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Pretty strong double. I think that 2:08 is a PR for Jordan after running a 1500. Hhhmmmm.......interesting stuff. Curious what's going on here. Only Vin knows. |
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I'd bet she could.[/quote] Me too. The year I first broke 4:20 (with a 4:19) I was 56-57 - and like Hasay I have no speed.[/quote] Are you male? Was it a 1500? |
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WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME SHE LOST BY SO MUCH IN BOTH RACES?? I WANT TO DIE! |
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She might be able to run sub-60, but not by very much. If she truly wants to remain as a 1500m runner (moving up from making the final at USOT in 2008 to becoming a medalist/making a national team in the event in 2016) she does have to get faster over 400/800m (if possible). Otherwise the distance races (5000,10000 and Marathon) will be beckoning. To truly be a sub-4 1500m runner with any consistency, running under 2.00 for 800m is a requirement. Suzy Favor and Mary Decker could run 1.58/1.56 to run 3.57. For a distance type (which she is), 2x your 800m time = 1500m time, is a bout right. 2.08 x 2 = 4.16 (she has run 4.14?, so was likely able to run about 2.07 at her peak then). For that matter, Sheila Reid has to do the same (even if she has a pretty good kick) in order to be a player on the world 1500m scene, and not just NCAA's. Olympic A standard is about 4.06, so 2.03 seems reasonable to run that or faster, with GOOD endurance (i.e. also being able to run about 8.45 for 3000m). Steph Twell (UK - same age as Reid) has run 58.1, 2.02+, 4.02+, 8.42, 14.54 on the track (plus road times of 53 minutes and sub-1h12 for 10miles/half Marathon). This shows her endurance capacity (and likely the volume of aerobic work, either in mileage and/or Intervals). |
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I'd bet she could.[/quote] Me too. The year I first broke 4:20 (with a 4:19) I was 56-57 - and like Hasay I have no speed.[/quote] Are you male? Was it a 1500?[/quote] Yes I'm a guy and I was 17 at the time. 1500. |
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I have to say the way she looks right now I cannot see her as a marathoner - legs too chunky and her just style seems more 5/10k. She may run a decent time at 1500 (but will never win anything major). |
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I'd bet she could.[/quote] Me too. The year I first broke 4:20 (with a 4:19) I was 56-57 - and like Hasay I have no speed.[/quote] Are you male? Was it a 1500?[/quote] Yes I'm a guy and I was 17 at the time. 1500.[/quote] Girls don't have as much sprinting capability as guys. So your experience isn't comparable to hers. She could probably run a 59-61 for 400m would be my guess. |
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When she was 16 or 17, I believe she closed in a 2:08 in a 1500 for either the world youth champs or world junior champs. So to run a 2:08 open is... not very good. |
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She closed the 2011 Indoor 3000 in 61 on anything but fresh legs. So I think she has 56-57 wheels. Could she run that right now? Not sure...she's been looking stale and overtrained to me. |
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She looks over trained to me too. Does anyone else think maybe she needs to put on more weight? She started to look too leaned out to me. |
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She definitely races like an overtrained athlete to me. |
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One good sign is she just mentioned on her twitter this week, "Wow, didn't realize how tired my legs had been until I started backing off" or something like that. And Vin mentioned they lowered her mileage. Hopefully this restores the "pop". She is definitely a workhorse and has a great work ethic, but sometimes less really is more. Recovery is key. |