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Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 11:22AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This is the thread for Leg speed velocity and such and such. comments, questions, and projections on athletes and their relative Leg speed velocities should go here!
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RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 11:36AM - in reply to ???.? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How much knee lift elevation angle should I have for most efficient leg speed velocity?
Yup Yup
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 11:40AM - in reply to ???.? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
See, that's the thing that people don't get about running on a treadmill.

You may have to generate the same power as with real running but you don't need the same leg speed velocity since the treadmill is supplying the velocity. All you have to provide is the leg speed.

And that's without even getting into issues of foot speed rapidity.
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RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 11:43AM - in reply to ????.? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

????.? wrote:

How much knee lift elevation angle should I have for most efficient leg speed velocity?


I think if you take into account pelvic angle along with femur acceleration than you do not need as much Knee Life Elevation angle, only knee lift angle velocity.
an 800m guy
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 11:47AM - in reply to ???.? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Question for the experts: Sometimes my coach will have us run a few hard 60m sprints at the end of a workout. These aren't strides. They're actual 100% all out sprints. I'm wondering what the purpose of these sprints is. Are we building leg speed, or foot speed? I assume that one drill could not develop both, could it?
Yup Yup
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 11:56AM - in reply to an 800m guy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

an 800m guy wrote:

Question for the experts: Sometimes my coach will have us run a few hard 60m sprints at the end of a workout. These aren't strides. They're actual 100% all out sprints. I'm wondering what the purpose of these sprints is. Are we building leg speed, or foot speed? I assume that one drill could not develop both, could it?


That was back in the days when we did not have such a handle on properly focused training. If you want to compete with the best you are going to have to understand and apply specific training methods to increase your capability in at least six areas:

Leg speed
Foot speed
Leg speed velocity
Foot speed velocity
Knee lift elevation angle
Knee lift angle velocity

For the correct drills to improve in each of these critical areas just send me $299.99 for your very own dvd with all this and more.

It's up to you. How bad do you want it?
No egos
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 4:14PM - in reply to ????.? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

????.? wrote:

How much knee lift elevation angle should I have for most efficient leg speed velocity?


Be smart bro, ask for a coach. What is track and your running background?
lol@tards..
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 4:33PM - in reply to Yup Yup Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Yup Yup wrote:

See, that's the thing that people don't get about running on a treadmill.

You may have to generate the same power as with real running but you don't need the same leg speed velocity since the treadmill is supplying the velocity. All you have to provide is the leg speed.

And that's without even getting into issues of foot speed rapidity.


this was good for a laugh...
Sew Max
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 4:34PM - in reply to Yup Yup Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Yup Yup wrote:

[quote]an 800m guy wrote:

Question for the experts: Sometimes my coach will have us run a few hard 60m sprints at the end of a workout. These aren't strides. They're actual 100% all out sprints. I'm wondering what the purpose of these sprints is. Are we building leg speed, or foot speed? I assume that one drill could not develop both, could it?


That was back in the days when we did not have such a handle on properly focused training. If you want to compete with the best you are going to have to understand and apply specific training methods to increase your capability in at least six areas:

Leg speed
Foot speed
Leg speed velocity
Foot speed velocity
Knee lift elevation angle
Knee lift angle velocity

For the correct drills to improve in each of these critical areas just send me $299.99 for your very own dvd with all this and more.

It's up to you. How bad do you want it?[/quote]

You left our forefoot angle. Not to be confused with foot speed or knee lift angle.
And also microfibers. Microfibers and their negative impact on running form.
LM
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 7:01PM - in reply to Sew Max Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sew Max wrote:

[quote]Yup Yup wrote:

[quote]an 800m guy wrote:

Question for the experts: Sometimes my coach will have us run a few hard 60m sprints at the end of a workout. These aren't strides. They're actual 100% all out sprints. I'm wondering what the purpose of these sprints is. Are we building leg speed, or foot speed? I assume that one drill could not develop both, could it?


That was back in the days when we did not have such a handle on properly focused training. If you want to compete with the best you are going to have to understand and apply specific training methods to increase your capability in at least six areas:

Leg speed
Foot speed
Leg speed velocity
Foot speed velocity
Knee lift elevation angle
Knee lift angle velocity

For the correct drills to improve in each of these critical areas just send me $299.99 for your very own dvd with all this and more.

It's up to you. How bad do you want it?[/quote]

You left our forefoot angle. Not to be confused with foot speed or knee lift angle.
And also microfibers. Microfibers and their negative impact on running form.[/quote]

Yea, those massages are really important for getting rid of microfibers so you can get proper knee lift elevation angle.
*
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 7:26PM - in reply to ???.? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The important thing to note is that leg speed velocity is inversely proportional to the ability to move up in distance.

Everyone thinks Jeremy Wariner would do well moving up to the 800 because of his build but the truth is that he has too much leg speed velocity to make the transition.

This is also why Seb Coe never broke 14 in the 5,000.
Too much leg speed velocity.
Said Aouita, on the hand, had a lower rate of leg speed velocity and was able to go under 13.
Guppy
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 7:33PM - in reply to * Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

* wrote:

The important thing to note is that leg speed velocity is inversely proportional to the ability to move up in distance.

Everyone thinks Jeremy Wariner would do well moving up to the 800 because of his build but the truth is that he has too much leg speed velocity to make the transition.

This is also why Seb Coe never broke 14 in the 5,000.
Too much leg speed velocity.
Said Aouita, on the hand, had a lower rate of leg speed velocity and was able to go under 13.


Correct, but Aouita also had more strength endurance stamina, which was probably equally important to his lower rate of leg speed velocity.
Gelato Cannoli
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 4/30/2012 8:17PM - in reply to Guppy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
For P. Mutai leg speed velocity his best performance comes with backwards running drills in the extensive phase following car towing sprinting repetitions in the intensive phase. Leg speed endurance must with arm swing coordination be practiced to achieve the highest level of speed efficiency.
Victor.E.Bull
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 9/8/2012 8:30PM - in reply to ???.? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Haha this thread is great
Haile Gebrselassie I
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 9/8/2012 8:54PM - in reply to Victor.E.Bull Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
no no no no people. all that matters is leg TURNOVER velocity. assuming your shoes don't slid over the ground (maintain friction!), and assuming you maintain normal leg/foot acceleration factor, with optimum leg back-kick angle (but as we all know, that goes without saying).

maintain all those things and all that matters is leg-turnover velocity.
kpack
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 9/8/2012 9:54PM - in reply to Haile Gebrselassie I Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
My buddy spends some time kissing up to jeff galloway. jeff says the same thing that you're saying, that turnover is the most important variable. of course i've been spending all sorts of time trying to increase stride length.
ventolin_
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 9/9/2012 4:04AM - in reply to Yup Yup Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
leg x speed x velocity = velocity
so basiclyy velocity cancels out and makes it bullshit
Bad Wigins
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 9/9/2012 4:20AM - in reply to ventolin_ Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ventolin_ wrote:

leg x speed x velocity = velocity
so basiclyy velocity cancels out and makes it bullshit


When velocity cancels out that leaves

leg x speed = 1

which means

speed = 1/leg

If that were true Usain Bolt should be slow because he has long legs.

But it would explain speed-midgets like Haile G and Kenny B. 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
no
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 1/5/2013 11:31AM - in reply to Bad Wigins Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what about leg foot rapidity?loll
speed is good food
RE: Leg speed velocity, Foot speed velocity, and everything related 1/5/2013 12:42PM - in reply to Haile Gebrselassie I Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Haile Gebrselassie I wrote:

TURNOVER velocity.


I had a turnover for breakfast. How fast should I be eating it to maximize velocity? Does it matter if I am standing or sitting? What about if I am on a treadmill with a steep ascent setting?