running2winall
7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/29/2012 10:23PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I just found out about a kid who ran a 4:55 mile. Hes in 7th grade. I wonder what times he could put up for his 8th grade year and xc in high school.
4:04.83
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/29/2012 10:25PM - in reply to running2winall Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

running2winall wrote:

I just found out about a kid who ran a 4:55 mile. Hes in 7th grade. I wonder what times he could put up for his 8th grade year and xc in high school.


COOL STORY BRO
well
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/29/2012 10:29PM - in reply to running2winall Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

running2winall wrote:

I just found out about a kid who ran a 4:55 mile. Hes in 7th grade. I wonder what times he could put up for his 8th grade year and xc in high school.


Well it all depends upon if he looked smooth and comfortable. What did his coach say about his talent level? Was it the best he'd ever seen and how many years has he been coaching? These are important details please get back to us ASAP.
Woll
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/29/2012 10:29PM - in reply to running2winall Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Daesha Rogers, a 7th grader in Florida (and a she) ran 4:57 this year and won 2A states.
Riiiiiight
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/29/2012 10:29PM - in reply to running2winall Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I found out about a 5 year old who can run a 5:02. Wonder what he'll be down to when he gets to high school?
running2winall
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/29/2012 10:33PM - in reply to well Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I do know that the school he runs at, the coach is a volunteer. He doesnt run much on his own and honestly i doubt they run much in practice. track isnt taken seriously there.
you know it
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/29/2012 10:49PM - in reply to running2winall Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
At a local track meet, I watched an infant run a 4:38 full mile. I wonder how fast he'll run in about 12 years when he's going through puberty?
nick lower
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/30/2012 12:36AM - in reply to you know it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I know a fetus who finished a full marathon prior to his or her actual birth. I believe s/he was DQ's for banditing the race, as his or her pregnant mother had the only official registered bib number.
trampling on your parade
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/30/2012 2:15AM - in reply to nick lower Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
4:55 is a fairly common middle school boys time. Case in point: pretty average MS invitationals in Ohio...

http://www.baumspage.com/trackms/pickerington/ridgeview/2012/2012%20results.htm

http://www.baumspage.com/trackms/mentormemorial/2012/2012%20Results.htm

http://www.ohiotrack.org/images/2011_boys_results.pdf

Jordan Hasay ran 1500m 4:28.61 and 3000m 9:35.12 while in middle school and she is a girl.
Flagpole
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/30/2012 9:37AM - in reply to trampling on your parade Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
4:55 DOES happen in middle school, but it's not VERY common, AND the OP was talking about a 7th grader.

Points:

1) Your first link didn't have anyone who ran 4:55.

2) The second link had one kid who did, but he was in 8th grade.

3) The third link had three, but they were all in 8th grade.

4) Don't need to compare everyone to Jordan Hasay, especially boys. At about 7th grade is when boys finally begin to overtake the girls.

When my daughter was in 8th grade, I went to all of her meets, and in one I saw one kid run 4:52 (8th grader) and in one other BIG meet, three kids went 4:42, 4:42, 4:43, and all were in 8th grade. I didn't see any other boy run 4:55 or faster.

So, is 4:55 for a 7th grade boy good? Yep. Does it show great things to come? Not necessarily.


trampling on your parade wrote:

4:55 is a fairly common middle school boys time. Case in point: pretty average MS invitationals in Ohio...

http://www.baumspage.com/trackms/pickerington/ridgeview/2012/2012%20results.htm

http://www.baumspage.com/trackms/mentormemorial/2012/2012%20Results.htm

http://www.ohiotrack.org/images/2011_boys_results.pdf

Jordan Hasay ran 1500m 4:28.61 and 3000m 9:35.12 while in middle school and she is a girl.
Cool story bro too
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/30/2012 9:55AM - in reply to Flagpole Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I dated a girl who ran 5:05 for the mile in 7th grade. She ran 5:02 as a senior in HS, gave pretty good head though.
trampling on your parade
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/30/2012 11:24AM - in reply to Cool story bro too Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Geez, Flagpole. "Fairly" common, yes. "Very" common, no. If people feel the need to shout on Internet forums that their kids is going to be the next big thing, then it seems completely justified to tell them that their kid is, in fact, just better than average. The links were citing average invitationals in Ohio. Ferrrrgodsake. I'm sure you could find tons of competitive MS meets in California, New York, Illinois, etc. that trample on this guy's parade way more than the county quad meet in the cornfields.
Flagpole
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/30/2012 12:06PM - in reply to trampling on your parade Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

trampling on your parade wrote:

Geez, Flagpole. "Fairly" common, yes. "Very" common, no. If people feel the need to shout on Internet forums that their kids is going to be the next big thing, then it seems completely justified to tell them that their kid is, in fact, just better than average. The links were citing average invitationals in Ohio. Ferrrrgodsake. I'm sure you could find tons of competitive MS meets in California, New York, Illinois, etc. that trample on this guy's parade way more than the county quad meet in the cornfields.


1) It for sure happens, but again, the OP mentioned a 7th grader, and in none of your examples was there a 7th grader running 4:55 or faster. Take that for what you will.

2) Ohio is not a bad distance running state, so let's not go too crazy with the "cornfield" talk.

3) I agree that anyone who shouts that their kid is going to be the next big thing based on a time in the 7th grade needs a bit of a reality check, but the way to do it is to mention that it's WAY too early to tell. Some kids mature at different stages. Some kids lose interest. Some kids improve just minimally while others improve by leaps and bounds. You want to say that there are "lots" nationally that do it, then ok. Calling it "common" though is a bit much.
chinocochio
RE: I just ran 10 miles in 85 minutes. So tired! Facebook status updates. 4/30/2012 12:11PM - in reply to Flagpole Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, definitely not "common". Well, it depends how you define the term but I would say its rather rare. Our HS is/was a pretty good Division 1 team and we had 2 guys break 5 in High School for the 1600. One continued running track but was mostly a football star while the other stopped running and just got a full ride soccer scholarship.

I'd say that 1 or 2 people at most will run sub 5 for a mile in middle school.



Flagpole wrote:

[quote]trampling on your parade wrote:

Geez, Flagpole. "Fairly" common, yes. "Very" common, no. If people feel the need to shout on Internet forums that their kids is going to be the next big thing, then it seems completely justified to tell them that their kid is, in fact, just better than average. The links were citing average invitationals in Ohio. Ferrrrgodsake. I'm sure you could find tons of competitive MS meets in California, New York, Illinois, etc. that trample on this guy's parade way more than the county quad meet in the cornfields.


1) It for sure happens, but again, the OP mentioned a 7th grader, and in none of your examples was there a 7th grader running 4:55 or faster. Take that for what you will.

2) Ohio is not a bad distance running state, so let's not go too crazy with the "cornfield" talk.

3) I agree that anyone who shouts that their kid is going to be the next big thing based on a time in the 7th grade needs a bit of a reality check, but the way to do it is to mention that it's WAY too early to tell. Some kids mature at different stages. Some kids lose interest. Some kids improve just minimally while others improve by leaps and bounds. You want to say that there are "lots" nationally that do it, then ok. Calling it "common" though is a bit much.[/quote]
Brian Wave
RE: I just ran 10 miles in 85 minutes. So tired! Facebook status updates. 4/30/2012 12:29PM - in reply to chinocochio Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Florida 2A States

Event 31 Girls 1600 Meter Run Varsity
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Name Year School Finals Points
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1 17 Rogers, Daesha 7 American Heritag 4:54.03 10
2 123 Davidson, Shelby 11 Cocoa Beach 5:00.70 8
3 173 Griggs, Christine 12 Episcopal Sc 5:09.02 6
4 613 Day, Sarah 12 West Shore 5:09.32 5
5 437 Wurth, Ella 11 Pine Crest 5:11.47 4
6 224 Doherty, Colleen 9 Holy Names 5:13.54 3
7 465 Carpio, Nicole 12 Ransom 5:19.70 2
8 578 Castillo, Claire 10 Titusville 5:20.55 1
9 209 Grippo, Kari 10 Gulf HS 5:23.29
10 67 Skipper, Elizabeth 9 Bishop Moore 5:33.44
11 80 O Riordan, Aoife 7 Bolles HS 5:34.29
12 68 Slocum, Haley 11 Bishop Moore 5:36.06
13 429 Farr, Rebecca 11 Pensacola Ca 5:45.88
-- 177 Wilson, Mackenzie 8 Episcopal Sc DNF
-- 216 Mc Coy, Joanna 12 Gulliver DNF
-- 389 Heitling, Ashley 11 Mount Dora DNF
Indiana1600
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 4/30/2012 12:30PM - in reply to running2winall Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
4:55 is excellent for a 7th grader, but I'm sure there are many who do it every year. The Hamilton County middle school meet in Indiana had a 7th grader run 4:55 last year and another run 4:52 the year before. That's just one county in one state, so I'm sure there are many, many others.

4:55 in middle school is very common. Here are the top results from that county race that I referenced above for the past 2 years:

2010:
1 4:43.71 Browning, Bobby Carmel Middl
2 4:46.27 Rinne, Colin Westfield
3 4:47.04 Barclay, Drew Hamilton Sou
4 4:47.75 Kraft, Calvin Fishers Juni
5 4:48.67 George, Michael Carmel Middl
6 4:52.97 Bailey, Matt Westfield

2011:
1 LaBonne, Chase 4:37.06# 10
2 Snider, Zack 4:37.13# 8
3 Bailey, Matt 4:49.32 6
4 Schildemier, Craig 4:51.99 5
5 Butler, Nick 4:52.28 4
6 St. Angelo, Elijah 4:53.34 3
7 Veatch, Ben 4:55.08 2
8 Shores, Michael 4:59.76 1


Bailey was a 7th grader in 2010 and Veatch was a 7th grader in 2011.

http://www.alphatiming.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=d1vBZMNk6Tk%3d&tabid=67&mid=409

http://www.alphatiming.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=ra8LZdeAUT4%3d&tabid=67&mid=409
DadeCounty
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 5/1/2012 12:20PM - in reply to Woll Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Actually Daesha ran a 4:54
merrrr
RE: 7th grade miler Runs 4:55 5/1/2012 12:23PM - in reply to DadeCounty Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2007:

11 Blackmon, Mark 7 Fort Mill 4:32.43