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This is how Boston went for me: 10 miles at Marathon goal pace (6:30) 10 miles slow (but very hard)- overheating/ dehydrating running 7-9 pace dropped out- sat in medical tent for 40 mins got back in race 6 mile death march- walk/run ended up dropping out of the race for 40 minutes at mile 21, then getting back in and finishing for a dismal 4:51 (goal was 2:50, PR 2:55) I was in great shape before, prepared with plenty of 20 mile runs (one 22 mile run) and long intervals. I live in WA, so not accustomed to the heat. How would you suggest preparing for another marathon in 2 months/ is this feasible? |
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How tired are you now? |
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Somethng similar happened to me several years ago. Unless you did some internal damage due to overheating, you did a long run with a lot of "cooldown" (sorry for the inappropriate term under the circumstances). I took a week off (light jogging), did a restructured last four weeks of my prior training, took a two week taper, then pulled out a BQ at a freezing Seattle Marathon. Listen to your body and you should be okay. |
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He need to listen to his goal and get a new coach. |
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next time its that hot.. try adjusting your time 5-7 minutes http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/4/4_1/96.shtml it will do wonders... look at the place you would have finished if you ran 2:55:00 |
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Seattle rock n roll is what im thinking. Im pretty sure no internal damage has been done, and mentally im ready for a non deathmarch race |
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What was your restructured 4 week training plan like? |
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I have run almost 60 marathons over the last 35 years (many sub-3s) and have been in your situation, seeking "redemption" after a bust of a marathon. Yes, you can run a good marathon two months from now. Since your Boston run wasn't continuous, I expect you will recover quickly. Just treat Boston like a long training run. After two weeks, I would resume normal training and get psyched. |
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Gave it up bro, what are you 23? |
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18-20 was always sort of kind of maybe sometimes the place to salvage a bad day depending sort of maybe... Have to re-evaluate it in a few weeks see how you feel Had a few where I dropped out before the 20 mile mark and been fine and raced well in a few weeks/months. But never had the real bad heat... Good luck Triage day in Boston brutal...runners melting on the road. |
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I've been in your situation...ran a marathon in similar conditions to Boston. Was in shape for 3:00 - 3:05. Ran a 3:10 pace for the early miles and death marched the last 6 for a 3:17. The next marathon I target was actually 3 months away so I had a bit more time than you. I took the first 2 weeks as recovery; then built up mileage for 4 weeks (like a very shortened base period); and then did 8 weeks of workouts before a 2 week taper. Wound up running 3:08 in the 2nd race. |
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Thanks for the advice, I am planning to take 7-10 days off and then have a four week training block. Any suggestions of how much to build and then taper. Also, I am 30, not 23. |
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I'd have to dig out the log from some box. Basically, I did everything I was doing from 6 weeks out to 2 weeks out except I cut down the length of the long runs. Don't think I ran more than 15 in that period. |
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I'd have to dig out the log from some box. Basically, I did everything I was doing from 6 weeks out to 2 weeks out except I cut down the length of the long runs. Don't think I ran more than 15 in that period.[/quote] I think this is good advice...you're already "trained" and you just need to maintain that fitness. You're not likely to improve in the short a period, so just keep it simple. |
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Not sure what your concerns are, exactly. You won't lose any fitness taking a week or more off - just settle back into your regular training schedule. When you're in shape, you should race. |
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I have been in similar situation before where I was melting behind the bushes with my boyfriend. My hairy Jewish arse was burning. Gosh, it was a near death experience. I ended up dehydrated and with a big sore ass for weeks, but I survived and a couple hours later I stopped by the Nathan's bagel shop and found another hairty Jew boy to joy and have some extreme temperature adventure. You will be fine. Protect your hairy arse and take it one at the time, I mean from behind. Good luck~ |
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Definitely won't lose anything in a week or so. The question in this situation is where in the plan do you resume. The key for me was staying fresh and sharp. The more I think about it, I think I was cutting back the distance on just about everything but doing it a bit quicker. Part of this was for psychological reasons. |
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Sorry to hear about your race. I ran Chicago in 2007 (then again in 2008 when it was almost as hot) and I know what it's like. 2 months is more than enough time; do a reverse taper and you'll be good to go. |