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StanfordRunner
Heat in boston 4/16/2012 3:42PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
was it REALLY that hot in Boston for the times to be that slow...?
Wisenheimer
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 4:11PM - in reply to StanfordRunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

StanfordRunner wrote:

was it REALLY that hot in Boston for the times to be that slow...?


No. Almost the whole field just had a bad day.
another voice
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 5:35PM - in reply to StanfordRunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does anyone have data for the temps along the route today? Just curious to see the actual numbers instead of the anecdotal evidence.
dqwwqdqwddwq
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 5:41PM - in reply to another voice Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't see what the big deal is, everyone likes apples and pie. Put the two together: apple pie. boston was a good race, but high temps. what is the big thing here?
yagtash
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 6:53PM - in reply to dqwwqdqwddwq Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

dqwwqdqwddwq wrote:

I don't see what the big deal is, everyone likes apples and pie. Put the two together: apple pie. boston was a good race, but high temps. what is the big thing here?



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afjr
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 7:03PM - in reply to StanfordRunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

StanfordRunner wrote:

was it REALLY that hot in Boston for the times to be that slow...?





Whether it was too hot has yet to be determined.

While most people use temperature as a gauge, everyone at letsrun knows the final judges of what is hot comes from rojo and Kevin Hanson

Kevin stands on the sideline, rojo sits in front of a computer 500 miles away. They then compare notes after the race is over and they tell YOU if it was hot when you were running.
Rainy day
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 7:38PM - in reply to afjr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've run in hotter weather. They said it was 80 at the start. It may have hit mid 80s around newton.

It was warm for sure, plus no cloud cover, tailwind you couldn't feel, and little shade. Mixed with a fairly tough course (2:07 record just a couple years ago), it made for a rough day.
east coast weenies
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 7:51PM - in reply to Rainy day Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
My fastest marathon was over 900 feet elevation gain/loss through the course, and 95 degrees at the finish.

75 degrees would be very mild temperatures in the west.
Sandimas County High, 1995
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 7:54PM - in reply to another voice Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

another voice wrote:

Does anyone have data for the temps along the route today? Just curious to see the actual numbers instead of the anecdotal evidence.


There should be data from the airport, if anyone knows what or where it is.
Ecin
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 8:30PM - in reply to afjr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

afjr wrote:

[quote]StanfordRunner wrote:

was it REALLY that hot in Boston for the times to be that slow...?





Whether it was too hot has yet to be determined.

While most people use temperature as a gauge, everyone at letsrun knows the final judges of what is hot comes from rojo and Kevin Hanson

Kevin stands on the sideline, rojo sits in front of a computer 500 miles away. They then compare notes after the race is over and they tell YOU if it was hot when you were running.[/quote]

This is 100% correct. I still remember Kevin Hanson popping off after Chicago in 2010. Easy call when your ace isn't running guys.
Optical data observer
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 9:12PM - in reply to another voice Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It was hot. Really hot. I clicked the watch off at mile 12 so I wouldn't run hard anymore. I didnt want to be there any longer. 50 yards in front of the 23 mile clock was a bank with an electronic time and temp sign...86 degrees at 1:16pm. Over 70 at the start. Yeah, it was that bad.

I've never filled out the emergency contact info on back of a bib until today. Saw lots of folk (from wave 1, not from the buy-in wave 3 crowd) down in the street being tended to. Heard too many sirens as well.
Kevin rojo Hanson
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 9:22PM - in reply to Optical data observer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It wasn't that hot. Man up.
irunthesestreets
RE: Heat in boston 4/16/2012 11:59PM - in reply to StanfordRunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Heat by 5.
zncxx
RE: Heat in boston 4/17/2012 8:39AM - in reply to Kevin rojo Hanson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes, the famous thread where those who didn't run knew more than those who did.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3741314&page=0
twitter @hansonsrun
RE: Heat in boston 4/17/2012 8:57AM - in reply to zncxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
From Kevin Hanson (@hansonsrun) on twitter yesterday.

Congratulations to all Boston Marathoners. You just ran on the hottest day EVER in Boston during the month of April. #takethatoldtimers
Average_Joe
RE: Heat in boston 4/17/2012 9:12AM - in reply to StanfordRunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think the problem for many is that we train in cold weather all winter long and then suddenly on race day, it's almost 90 degrees. If this race were held in June under the same conditions, I think many would do a lot better.

A few minutes before the start, I drank down 20 ounces of water as I always do. The difference was this time, my mouth was already feeling parched just one mile into the race. The only water available in the first 5 miles or so was the BAA water stops. None of the spectators were handing any out until later. Makes sense most years but this time I was really wishing they were.

Every single chance I got, I was drinking and pouring water on my head. It still wasn't enough
History guy
RE: Heat in boston 4/17/2012 9:33AM - in reply to Average_Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Average_Joe wrote:

I think the problem for many is that we train in cold weather all winter long and then suddenly on race day, it's almost 90 degrees. If this race were held in June under the same conditions, I think many would do a lot better.

A few minutes before the start, I drank down 20 ounces of water as I always do. The difference was this time, my mouth was already feeling parched just one mile into the race. The only water available in the first 5 miles or so was the BAA water stops. None of the spectators were handing any out until later. Makes sense most years but this time I was really wishing they were.

Every single chance I got, I was drinking and pouring water on my head. It still wasn't enough



I hear what you are saying, but check the thread above.rojo famously told runners with experiences like yours to "grow a pair" on the front page....from the comfort of his home.
Citizen Runner
RE: Heat in boston 4/17/2012 9:33AM - in reply to another voice Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

another voice wrote:

Does anyone have data for the temps along the route today? Just curious to see the actual numbers instead of the anecdotal evidence.

You can get historic hour by hour data at http://www.wunderground.com for most locations.

Not to discount how tough it was this year and only looking at a few data points, it looks like 1976 was a couple degrees warmer and the race would have started two hours later thus being run during the warmest part of the day.
ignorant turd
RE: Heat in boston 4/17/2012 9:38AM - in reply to StanfordRunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bu wait wait wait. i thought weather did not affect the boston marathon results. right?
Jeffster!!!
RE: Heat in boston 4/17/2012 9:48AM - in reply to Citizen Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=02456
If you go to the bottom of the page linked, there are links to a number of local weather stations. Most of these are unofficial stations. If you click on the link to most of these stations you can then change the date you wish to view and can get the temp and conditions at frequent points throughout the day. There is usually a google map showing the location of the station.
For example the first linked station is on the Newton Highlands
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMANEWTO4
The page shows the readings updated every five minutes in both chart and graph form.
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